Booker agrees to 2 year 145 million dollar contract extension

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I just don't understand any of this. You are saying since he's locked in for 5 years, he has no leverage? If he says he will walk once the 5 years is up, a team will call his bluff?

Book will be 33 when this is over. Whether we like it or not, his tenure with the team (if he spends the next 5 years with us) will have earned him the right to be accommodated.
If Luka can be traded without his consent or input and AD can likewise be traded so can Booker. A players only leverage is to either (a) sit (and not get paid); or (b) to say they are leaving once their contract is up. If we traded Booker to New Orleans because they offered the best package he’s got no recourse. He ain’t sitting out multiple years and missing all that payout and he’s locked in for five years. If New Orleans can’t attract free agents, landing someone of bookers talent who is locked in looks pretty good to them. He’s got zero leverage.

KD had leverage because he had a year left in his contract. Butler had leverage because he was a pending free agent agent. Minny wouldn’t trade for KD because he intimated he would leave. Rarely do teams take a chance on a pending free agent (though the raptors did with kahwi and it paid off), but they would with a guy a lengthy multi-year deal.
 

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I think this torpedoes his trade value. We’re probably stuck (for lack of a better term) with this contract.
Only if (a) he gets injured like Beal; (b) teams view him as empty calories ala Zach Levine (but I think book got over this hump with Paul years); or (c) he had a no trade clause (the ultimate poison pill, which he doesn’t have). Within the next few years there will be many deals that equal or exceed bookers deal and he’ll continue to put up 25/6/5 as he’s in his prime. So if none of a,b, or c occur I think you’ll be proven wrong.
 

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Only if (a) he gets injured like Beal; (b) teams view him as empty calories ala Zach Levine (but I think book got over this hump with Paul years); or (c) he had a no trade clause (the ultimate poison pill, which he doesn’t have). Within the next few years there will be many deals that equal or exceed bookers deal and he’ll continue to put up 25/6/5 as he’s in his prime. So if none of a,b, or c occur I think you’ll be proven wrong.
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This deal was done to make him a Sun for life. If they wanted to keep their options open then you don’t do anything this summer and see how next season plays out.
 

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They said on the radio today that Booker is paid 33% of the Suns cap now. When he gets his extension, it will be 33% of the new cap. He will be paid the same as he is now.

Also, with the cap going up Kellan Olsen said get ready to see supporting players getting $40 million dollars, not the stars, supporting guys.
 

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Gerald Bourget hits on each key point here.

I don't care what anyone says, I'm happy Booker is extended. He deserves it. He's been loyal to the Suns to a fault just like us fans are, usually.

 

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Gerald Bourget hits on each key point here.

I don't care what anyone says, I'm happy Booker is extended. He deserves it. He's been loyal to the Suns to a fault just like us fans are, usually.


I'm glad Gerald Bourguet didn't take the prove-it or challenge stance like some in the media took about the extension.

Devin Booker has been doing it for 10 years.

There should be no need to defend it with today's salaries in the NBA. Unlike some players making big money, he has earned it.
 

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I'm glad Gerald Bourguet didn't take the prove-it or challenge stance like some in the media took about the extension.

Devin Booker has been doing it for 10 years.

There should be no need to defend it with today's salaries in the NBA. Unlike some players making big money, he has earned it.

I was trying to find a way to say what Gerald did. I am not worried about what Booker makes. He has a decade here and has earned each cent he's getting so long and I have no right to say different when the Suns are paying 32 year old Bradley Beal more next year for less and paid 37 year old KD more for padded stats. I'll worry about his cap hit 5 years from now in 4 years. He's the only guy who has earned what he's making based on what he's done for the Suns.

I'm disappointed in how Booker looked and carried himself last year but I hope he's committed next year and gets back that "I'll do it" mentality. If he does, this deal is just as much as anyone in Booker's shoes. Booker isn't even 30. He isn't quite a finished product and deserves some grace, IMO. Not a one of us would say no to that money and regardless of what he's paid, he's the franchise and will be judged the same whether he took a cut or not.
 

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I'm glad Gerald Bourguet didn't take the prove-it or challenge stance like some in the media took about the extension.

Devin Booker has been doing it for 10 years.

Has been doing what? You talk about him like he’s lead the Suns to the promised land and made them a perennial contender when reality is the majority of Devin’s tenure here the team has either been a total abomination (pre CP3) or the most disappointing team in the league (post CP3). The only time they were actually contenders was when he played second fiddle to a 36 year PG who ran the team and even that was for a brief two year window that ended in utter humiliation.


There should be no need to defend it with today's salaries in the NBA. Unlike some players making big money, he has earned it.
I really don’t know how Booker has earned being the highest paid player in the game when he didn’t even make an All-Star game this year and made an All-NBA team twice in ten years.
 

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I really don’t know how Booker has earned being the highest paid player in the game when he didn’t even make an All-Star game this year and made an All-NBA team twice in ten years.

That's a you problem and you aren't the cutting the check. Go join the other guy in the Booker hater thread.

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Has been doing what? You talk about him like he’s lead the Suns to the promised land and made them a perennial contender when reality is the majority of Devin’s tenure here the team has either been a total abomination (pre CP3) or the most disappointing team in the league (post CP3). The only time they were actually contenders was when he played second fiddle to a 36 year PG who ran the team and even that was for a brief two year window that ended in utter humiliation.



I really don’t know how Booker has earned being the highest paid player in the game when he didn’t even make an All-Star game this year and made an All-NBA team twice in ten years.
He wont be the highest player for very long.
 

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I think the “Booker isn’t selfish” argument takes a ding with this move. We’ve seen guys like Brunson take less so the team can get more so it’s not unheard of at this point.
You mean like LeBron? Now they have one thing in common
 

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You mean like LeBron? Now they have one thing in common
Actually LeBron has signed contracts for less than the max he could’ve gotten a few times over the span of his career. The most notable in Miami so the Heat could sign Chris Bosh.
 

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Actually LeBron has signed contracts for less than the max he could’ve gotten a few times over the span of his career. The most notable in Miami so the Heat could sign Chris Bosh.
if it gets to it and we somehow end up in contention during book's extension he could restructure right?
 

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Actually LeBron has signed contracts for less than the max he could’ve gotten a few times over the span of his career. The most notable in Miami so the Heat could sign Chris Bosh.
Yep and Laker fans are upset with him now because he won’t take less than…I guess winning was more important to him then than it is now
 

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If Luka can be traded without his consent or input and AD can likewise be traded so can Booker. A players only leverage is to either (a) sit (and not get paid); or (b) to say they are leaving once their contract is up. If we traded Booker to New Orleans because they offered the best package he’s got no recourse. He ain’t sitting out multiple years and missing all that payout and he’s locked in for five years. If New Orleans can’t attract free agents, landing someone of bookers talent who is locked in looks pretty good to them. He’s got zero leverage.

KD had leverage because he had a year left in his contract. Butler had leverage because he was a pending free agent agent. Minny wouldn’t trade for KD because he intimated he would leave. Rarely do teams take a chance on a pending free agent (though the raptors did with kahwi and it paid off), but they would with a guy a lengthy multi-year deal.
Not a chance the Suns trade Booker without his input. Plus, teams are still hesitant to take on a player who could bitch, moan and be a distraction. I wouldn't say Book has zero leverage. However, him already being under contract that long gives him less than say a star that has to agree to a contract extension soon or you have up a ton of assets for nothing.
 

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If Luka can be traded without his consent or input and AD can likewise be traded so can Booker. A players only leverage is to either (a) sit (and not get paid); or (b) to say they are leaving once their contract is up. If we traded Booker to New Orleans because they offered the best package he’s got no recourse. He ain’t sitting out multiple years and missing all that payout and he’s locked in for five years. If New Orleans can’t attract free agents, landing someone of bookers talent who is locked in looks pretty good to them. He’s got zero leverage.

KD had leverage because he had a year left in his contract. Butler had leverage because he was a pending free agent agent. Minny wouldn’t trade for KD because he intimated he would leave. Rarely do teams take a chance on a pending free agent (though the raptors did with kahwi and it paid off), but they would with a guy a lengthy multi-year deal.

Book has all the leverage. He is pretty much the most decorated Suns of all time.

Comparing him to Luka? Luke is generational but hardly the greatest Mav of all time. Not to mention character issues with one versus the other.

Suns org, hey lets trade Book without any consent. cmon
 

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Book has all the leverage. He is pretty much the most decorated Suns of all time.

Comparing him to Luka? Luke is generational but hardly the greatest Mav of all time. Not to mention character issues with one versus the other.

Suns org, hey lets trade Book without any consent. cmon
I think it's highly debatable that Book is the greatest Sun of all time. I wouldn't even put him near Nash, KJ and even Barkley. All those guys were legit #1s on their perennial playoff teams, with 3 MVPs between them, taking the Suns to the playoffs in every year they played, including 6 WCF appearances and Finals appearance. Meanwhile, save two years when CP3 was running the show, the Booker Era has been pretty much an unmitigated disaster for a decade, racking up the single worst seasons in Suns history on one spectrum pre-CP3 and the most disappointing seasons ever post CP3., while only making the playoffs 4 times in 10 years and consistently being completely and utterly humiliated to end 3 of those 4 appearances.

Just because he's been here a long time, doesn't make him the best Sun ever and he deserves zero consent if traded.
 

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I think it's highly debatable that Book is the greatest Sun of all time. I wouldn't even put him near Nash, KJ and even Barkley. All those guys were legit #1s on their perennial playoff teams, with 3 MVPs between them, taking the Suns to the playoffs in every year they played, including 6 WCF appearances and Finals appearance. Meanwhile, save two years when CP3 was running the show, the Booker Era has been pretty much an unmitigated disaster for a decade, racking up the single worst seasons in Suns history on one spectrum pre-CP3 and the most disappointing seasons ever post CP3., while only making the playoffs 4 times in 10 years and consistently being completely and utterly humiliated to end 3 of those 4 appearances.

Just because he's been here a long time, doesn't make him the best Sun ever and he deserves zero consent if traded.

Nice try but that's not what I said.

I too think those guys are right up there for greatest Sun of all time.
 

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Those are two entirely different scenarios and really have no reason being in the same conversation. Whatever ish sells the team for is just money in his pocket and out of the new owners pocket. Whatever Booker makes directly impacts the ability to add talent around him. I don’t begrudge him for making as much as possible. But when you see other stars (albeit a very small number of them) take less to enable their team to add more talent around them, well, it does shed light on players’ priorities.

As for generational wealth . . . by the end of this contract I’m pretty sure that in total earnings and endorsements book will be approaching, if not exceeding half a billion dollars. If that’s been invested even conservatively he’ll exceed a billion dollars by his death. Giving up a few million to accommodate better teammates isn’t likely to impact the generations that will be covered by his wealth.

The scenarios may be different, but at the end of the day we are talking about a person voluntarily taking less money.

I know players have done it for a variety of reasons, and I'm confident some of scenarios include future undisclosed considerations and or were done with a specific plan in mind i.e. hey Book take 50 instead of 70 and we can bring in Embiid.

My point is simply, Booker would be dumb to say, hey Ish thanks for the 140 million dollar offer, but I'll take 100 to be fair, and we shouldn't expect him too.

I wonder how many fans here have been offered a 40% raise by their employer, with no additional work requirements, and turned it down.
 
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