Booker agrees to 2 year 145 million dollar contract extension

[BooksOrangePlanet]

The scenarios may be different, but at the end of the day we are talking about a person voluntarily taking less money.

I know players have done it for a variety of reasons, and I'm confident some of scenarios include future undisclosed considerations and or were done with a specific plan in mind i.e. hey Book take 50 instead of 70 and we can bring in Embiid.

My point is simply, Booker would be dumb to say, hey Ish thanks for the 140 million dollar offer, but I'll take 100 to be fair, and we shouldn't expect him too.

I wonder how many fans here have been offered a 40% raise by their employer, with no additional work requirements, and turned it down.

if i could get a 40% raise without blackmail or handees or lewinskies...

 

[Chaplin]

He shouldn’t be at any point, or close to the highest player at any point.

Except that is what he is.

 

[GatorAZ]

I still haven't heard a good reason why this extension was necessary. Book had 3 years /$170m left on his contract.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Except that is what he is.

And a message board is a place to discuss our opinions on that and what effect that contract will have on the team moving forward.

 

[Chaplin]

And a message board is a place to discuss our opinions on that and what effect that contract will have on the team moving forward.

True, doesn’t mean either of us are wrong.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

if it gets to it and we somehow end up in contention during book's extension he could restructure right?

I don’t think so. That’s an nfl thing. It can only do so if it’s an extension and the team already has cap space, I think. What you’re suggesting isn’t a thing in the nba, I don’t believe.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Not a chance the Suns trade Booker without his input. Plus, teams are still hesitant to take on a player who could bitch, moan and be a distraction. I wouldn't say Book has zero leverage. However, him already being under contract that long gives him less than say a star that has to agree to a contract extension soon or you have up a ton of assets for nothing.

I don’t know why y’all think book has so much leverage compared to other stars. Paul was traded to OKC without his permission. AD was traded to the Mavs without his permission.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

I don’t think so. That’s an nfl thing. It can only do so if it’s an extension and the team already has cap space, I think. What you’re suggesting isn’t a thing in the nba, I don’t believe.

idk amigo - if we can stretch beal i think we can stretch book - not sure how it would work tho

 

[Mainstreet]

if it gets to it and we somehow end up in contention during book's extension he could restructure right?

I don’t think so. That’s an nfl thing. It can only do so if it’s an extension and the team already has cap space, I think. What you’re suggesting isn’t a thing in the nba, I don’t believe.

This might be something they should look at when they do the next CBA.

 

[Covert Rain]

I don’t know why y’all think book has so much leverage compared to other stars. Paul was traded to OKC without his permission. AD was traded to the Mavs without his permission.

I didn’t say so much leverage. Paul was already on the downside. AD was always hurt and getting traded for someone the Mavs desperately didn’t want to pay and even the Lakers had no idea would ever become available. Likely Book gets a list of teams he would go to.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Nice try but that's not what I said.

I too think those guys are right up there for greatest Sun of all time.

Ironically, you didn’t say “best,” you said “most decorated” which is even further from the truth considering no MVPs, and fewer all-nba abd all star games than a myriad players that have worn the orange and purple. Now he still has years to attain those things, but at his current rate he ain’t exactly racking them up.

That said we’ll just have to disagree about whether the suns would “have to” consult book on a trade. They might choose to, but I don’t think they let that get in their way if he doesn’t agree. If they do, it’s not a smart front office move.

And you’re just flat out wrong in terms of leverage. Here’s the facts:

Bookers leverage: public sentiment (which really goes out the crapper if he’s holding us back from a great trade - or don’t you remember how suns fans reacted to the news of Marion nixing a deal for Garnett?)

Suns leverage: years and most importantly, DOLLARS

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The scenarios may be different, but at the end of the day we are talking about a person voluntarily taking less money.

I know players have done it for a variety of reasons, and I'm confident some of scenarios include future undisclosed considerations and or were done with a specific plan in mind i.e. hey Book take 50 instead of 70 and we can bring in Embiid.

My point is simply, Booker would be dumb to say, hey Ish thanks for the 140 million dollar offer, but I'll take 100 to be fair, and we shouldn't expect him too.

I wonder how many fans here have been offered a 40% raise by their employer, with no additional work requirements, and turned it down.

Again, I’ll repeat myself: I don’t expect him to take less. But it doesn’t change the fact that others have to enhance their rosters. Booker has never done so. This is just a statement of fact.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I still haven't heard a good reason why this extension was necessary. Book had 3 years /$170m left on his contract.

I think it’s a combination of what’s been discussed:

-suns jettisoning KD and likely Beal for younger players likely signals that they won’t be competing for awhile. So the extension is like an acknowledgment to book that we still love you.

- set it now and watch other deals race past it so you lock in today’s pricing

- in the nba giving players extensions when they’re eligible is often seen as a respect thing too, so maybe that came into play.

-and like I’ve been stating, I think it does give them ultimate leverage in the event they want to trade him.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

idk amigo - if we can stretch beal i think we can stretch book - not sure how it would work tho

Stretching comes with waiving. I don’t think you can stretch them and keep them. That’s not a restructure.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

This might be something they should look at when they do the next CBA.

I think a hurdle would be that nba contracts are guaranteed.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I didn’t say so much leverage. Paul was already on the downside. AD was always hurt and getting traded for someone the Mavs desperately didn’t want to pay and even the Lakers had no idea would ever become available. Likely Book gets a list of teams he would go to.

Could be. I’m not even arguing that the suns would NOT ask books preference. I’m simply stating the length of the contract gives them the leverage to not have to take that into consideration if they don’t want to do so.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Except that is what he is.

But he isn't, is he? He is not the highest paid player now, and when that extension kicks in, he won't be the highest paid player then. Am I missing this somehow?

 

[Mainstreet]

I think a hurdle would be that nba contracts are guaranteed.

I'm more looking at how the money can be paid rather than removing the guarantee.

 

[Chaplin]

But he isn't, is he? He is not the highest paid player now, and when that extension kicks in, he won't be the highest paid player then. Am I missing this somehow?

Technically you're right and make a good point.

 

[Dr. Jones]

If he gets off to a roaring start but we suck..... I think we trade him. The 5 years of control throughout his prime would net us a great return. Which we need in this situation.

 

[elindholm]

Hey, I'm back. Was out of the country for two weeks, then had to settle an avatar bet.

I'm not too worried about this extension. Yes, it's excessive, but if it were for $55M/year, we'd probably be fine with it. It's not very likely that that $20M/year difference for two years is going to make much difference in terms of the kind of roster the Suns are able to put together.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Its an extension. So its like a endloaded raise. He is not the highest paid player now, and he won't be when he does get this money.

I swear, do people think this is his salary this upcoming season?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Hey, I'm back. Was out of the country for two weeks, then had to settle an avatar bet.

I'm not too worried about this extension. Yes, it's excessive, but if it were for $55M/year, we'd probably be fine with it. It's not very likely that that $20m/year difference for two years is going to make much difference in terms of the kind of roster the Suns are able to put together.

You're a good sport sir. Welcome home.

 

[Dan H]

Hey, I'm back. Was out of the country for two weeks, then had to settle an avatar bet.

I'm not too worried about this extension. Yes, it's excessive, but if it were for $55M/year, we'd probably be fine with it. It's not very likely that that $20M/year difference for two years is going to make much difference in terms of the kind of roster the Suns are able to put together.

That’s great, heh. Props for being a good sport.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I swear, do people think this is his salary this upcoming season?

No. No one thinks that. It’s the largest per season extension ever given. That’s why people talk about it as largest ever. Even though it’s not his salary this season I think the concept is that at present he has the highest single season salary on an existing contract. Of course that is going to cease to be the case as we approach those actual years, but that doesn’t change the fact that’s being stated about it presently.