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I'm considering picking up that LOTR.
 

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Anybody play on boardgamearena.com? It is a cool website were you can play nearly 1000 games of all types online, for free! If you want to upgrade to the premium service for $5 a month of $3/month billed annually, you can host the games and have a lot more cool features. I'm on there all the time these days, so you can find me by searching for dreamcastrocks.
 
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Anybody play on boardgamearena.com? It is a cool website were you can play nearly 1000 games of all types online, for free! If you want to upgrade to the premium service for $5 a month of $3/month billed annually, you can host the games and have a lot more cool features. I'm on there all the time these days, so you can find me by searching for dreamcastrocks.
I might take you up on that, they have a slick interface that is a little bit better designed than Tabletop Simulator. Although with a lot less available titles.
 

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Tariffs are literally destroying this industry.
It is a bummer. I recently did market research on this prior to the tariffs for a project and it was expected to be a $50 billion in the US by 2029 from $27 billion in 2023. It would have nearly doubled, but now all of these mom and pop shops that have started to pop back up are going to be gone in record time. :(
 
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One of the better Online Board Game Stores closed up shop permanently today: Boardlandia.

Spent probably $1000 total over the past 3 years with them. Really good. Damn shame.
 

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One of the better Online Board Game Stores closed up shop permanently today: Boardlandia.

Spent probably $1000 total over the past 3 years with them. Really good. Damn shame.
That sucks.

Question - are most board games made in China?
 
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That sucks.

Question - are most board games made in China?
Most are. American manufacturers simply aren't set up to create most of the components for board games. And there is always the cost advantage for it as well.

Most companies around the world will use crowdfunding through Kickstarter, or now Gamefound, collect pledges and use those funds for manufacturing, and there are a LOT of extras and bling that is included in a lot of these projects. Manufacturing is done in China, once it's done they pile it on a cargo ship, 2 weeks later it hits ports (and this isn't just for the US), then the games get offloaded and sent to a Fulfillment partner like QML, and then shipping begins. It's generally a pretty efficient workflow. THe problem now is that it's just too expensive to ship everything from China to the United States. Manufacturing hasn't really changed.

There is a LOT of nervousness right now, I have a bunch of pledges that are still in production and the ones that are currently ready to ship are pretty much going to sit in a warehouse until something changes. 245% tariff is ridiculous.
 

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Most are. American manufacturers simply aren't set up to create most of the components for board games. And there is always the cost advantage for it as well.

Most companies around the world will use crowdfunding through Kickstarter, or now Gamefound, collect pledges and use those funds for manufacturing, and there are a LOT of extras and bling that is included in a lot of these projects. Manufacturing is done in China, once it's done they pile it on a cargo ship, 2 weeks later it hits ports (and this isn't just for the US), then the games get offloaded and sent to a Fulfillment partner like QML, and then shipping begins. It's generally a pretty efficient workflow. THe problem now is that it's just too expensive to ship everything from China to the United States. Manufacturing hasn't really changed.

There is a LOT of nervousness right now, I have a bunch of pledges that are still in production and the ones that are currently ready to ship are pretty much going to sit in a warehouse until something changes. 245% tariff is ridiculous.
Hopefully Trump will back down as he is indicating.

I did do some research - found out that 90% of crowd sourcing comes from US and Europe, with the largest percentage from the US, but sales, while still mostly US and Europe, are beginning to diversify, and that Europe buys a larger percentage than they crowdfund.

A lot of things I hadn't considered - mainly the costs of the game pieces, which get expensive given the small runs that most board games have, as well as the printing costs that need to be in many different languages (Germany and Poland seem to be big board game hotspots).
 
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Hopefully Trump will back down as he is indicating.

I did do some research - found out that 90% of crowd sourcing comes from US and Europe, with the largest percentage from the US, but sales, while still mostly US and Europe, are beginning to diversify, and that Europe buys a larger percentage than they crowdfund.

A lot of things I hadn't considered - mainly the costs of the game pieces, which get expensive given the small runs that most board games have, as well as the printing costs that need to be in many different languages (Germany and Poland seem to be big board game hotspots).
That’s true, and you will see a lot of games not offer localization due to cost, even after crowdfunding. But there are a lot of publishers in Europe that go through this. Hell the biggest board game convention in the world is in Germany. My favorite publisher is actually out of Poland.
 
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So I've got a Kickstarter fulfillment that is changing up their model. They are actually shipping all the US games to Canada, where they will sit until the tariffs relax. When they do, then they will ship from Canada, which is cheaper and easier logistically.

Most of the ones I have are still being manufactured but won't be shipped over to the US until the Tariff situation is resolved. Until then they will just sit in a Chinese warehouse.
 

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So I've got a Kickstarter fulfillment that is changing up their model. They are actually shipping all the US games to Canada, where they will sit until the tariffs relax. When they do, then they will ship from Canada, which is cheaper and easier logistically.

Most of the ones I have are still being manufactured but won't be shipped over to the US until the Tariff situation is resolved. Until then they will just sit in a Chinese warehouse.
I read this morning that almost 100 cargo ships that were set to unload in Seattle/Tacoma have been diverted to Vancouver to unload. So a lot of that going on
 

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