Best Pizza in the Valley

[Dback Jon]

Night Owl (Hayden and McDowell) in Scottsdale is really good. They are opening a Tempe location as well.

 

[jf-08]

Night Owl (Hayden and McDowell) in Scottsdale is really good. They are opening a Tempe location as well.

Funny you mention this because I was there for the first time for lunch with a buddy on Wednesday and I thought their pie was top notch.

 

[Dback Jon]

Funny you mention this because I was there for the first time for lunch with a buddy on Wednesday and I thought their pie was top notch.

Which one did you have?

 

[jf-08]

Pepperoni. That's my staple.

 

[Devilmaycare]

I was with that guy 100% until he said he was going to order Dominos, lol

yeah, that was bad ending. He should have just made up a name and everyone would assume local joint.

 

[Shane]

I was with that guy 100% until he said he was going to order Dominos, lol

I was in three different cities in Italy ate pizza in every one of them and I thought it sucked as far as pizza goes even though even a bad pizza is edible.

Didn’t much care for the Italian food in Italy either lol…, I’m sure that’s just because it’s different than what were used to in America. However, the charcuterie boards in Italy blow the United States away.

 

[Dback Jon]

Pepperoni. That's my staple.

The thing I like about night owl is they let you do slices.

Alex likes the fly for the white pie and the Boss.

Their wings are really good as well

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I was in three different cities in Italy ate pizza in every one of them and I thought it sucked as far as pizza goes even though even a bad pizza is edible.

Didn’t much care for the Italian food in Italy either lol…, I’m sure that’s just because it’s different than what were used to in America. However, the charcuterie boards in Italy blow the United States away.

Italian might be my least favorite cuisine in the world. Okay, maybe not as bad as French, but definitely overrated. I think I'd rather have British food. At least they have fish and chips.

 

[Shane]

Italian might be my least favorite cuisine in the world. Okay, maybe not as bad as French, but definitely overrated. I think I'd rather have British food. At least they have fish and chips.

I don’t care for French food like at all

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I don’t care for French food like at all

I don't either. When I was writing the first sentence about Italian, I forgot how much I don't like French food. It is somehow considered the best in the world and the discipline where most chefs get their training from. I don't get it. I guess I'm not bougie enough...

 

[Devilmaycare]

I can't really eat most Italian food (no pasta or bread) and don't feel any loss for it. What's crazy is how many higher end restaurants are Italian. Those stores have to have great margins. The food is relatively cheap to make and they charge an arm and a leg for it.

 

[Mulli]

I can't really eat most Italian food (no pasta or bread) and don't feel any loss for it. What's crazy is how many higher end restaurants are Italian. Those stores have to have great margins. The food is relatively cheap to make and they charge an arm and a leg for it.

The good ingredients are not cheap.

 

[Devilmaycare]

The good ingredients are not cheap.

Nothing for pasta or sauces is in the same price range as the meats at a high end steak or seafood restaurant.

 

[Mulli]

Nothing for pasta or sauces is in the same price range as the meats at a high end steak or seafood restaurant.

I don’t think we are talking about the same “Italian food”

 

[GatorAZ]

I don’t love fancy pizza joints. Corleone’s, Mamma Mia’s and NYPD are good and in that tier above the generic joints. Grimaldi’s is good but different. Been wanting to try Spinato’s.

 

[BACH]

I was in three different cities in Italy ate pizza in every one of them and I thought it sucked as far as pizza goes even though even a bad pizza is edible.

Didn’t much care for the Italian food in Italy either lol…, I’m sure that’s just because it’s different than what were used to in America. However, the charcuterie boards in Italy blow the United States away.

Ehh... Where in Italy?

You do realize that Italian cuisine is very different when you are in Italy, because each region of the country has their own cuisine.

You do realize that Italian cuisine is very different when you are in Italy, because it's region of the country has their own cuisine.

Pizza is Napolitanian and the pizza is awesome IMO, but very different from the American version. Original Napoli pizza is fresh dough, tomato sauce, fresh mozzerella baked in a wood fired oven under extreme heat for 2-3 minutes. One topping available. 1. Fresh basil. That's it. You cannot bake industrial dough like that, processed cheese will not melt for that short duration. And not a negative on the American version. Just saying that it's not the same.

The good ingredients are not cheap.

Italian food is about amazing fresh ingredients, local to your area. Took my two Americans friends there some years ago. They finally understood the difference between European and American Cuisine just by the fact that every single tomato they tasted for 6 days tasted better than any tomato they ever had in the US.

 

[Shane]

Ehh... Where in Italy?

You do realize that Italian cuisine is very different when you are in Italy, because it's region of the country has their own cuisine.

Pizza is Napolitanian and the pizza is awesome, but very different from the American version.

Milan, Verona, Bellagio

 

[BACH]

Milan, Verona, Bellagio

Yeah, not native pizza areas. That's beef and South Tiroler cuisine.

 

[Devilmaycare]

I don’t think we are talking about the same “Italian food”

Possibly, the places I'm thinking of are mainly pasta dishes with possible smaller pieces of meat as part of the dish. My company is partnered with high end restaurants in the big cities and I see it on their menus. They're the trendy places that are really hard to get into in like New York. Expensive and honestly the food is mid most of the time. They're more of places to be seen at then because the food is amazing.

 

[BACH]

Italian might be my least favorite cuisine in the world. Okay, maybe not as bad as French, but definitely overrated. I think I'd rather have British food. At least they have fish and chips.

Then you never had the real deal IMO

 

[MigratingOsprey]

Italian and French food are both absolutely fantastic

Italian is so much more than pasta - although pasta itself is great

 

[gmabel830]

Trevor's is very good... people sleep on the pizza inside a liquor store!

 

[Dback Jon]

Trevor's is very good... people sleep on the pizza inside a liquor store!

I will have to try that - Scottsdale location is walking distance from my house.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Possibly, the places I'm thinking of are mainly pasta dishes with possible smaller pieces of meat as part of the dish. My company is partnered with high end restaurants in the big cities and I see it on their menus. They're the trendy places that are really hard to get into in like New York. Expensive and honestly the food is mid most of the time. They're more of places to be seen at then because the food is amazing.

We need to start with the basics... when we say "Italian food" here in America, what we actually mean is heavily Americanized versions of Italian food. In fact, there are several "Italian" dishes regularly served up in America, that you would never, or very rarely/only in parts of southern Italy, find in Italy.

Secondly, Italy is extremely regionalized with each region, for all intents and purposes, being its own country with its own regional cuisine. There are dishes you would find in Liguria that you would never see in Sicily, or Calabria...

So in effect, American Italian cuisine has become another "region" if you will...albeit, a very poor substitute for the real thing. Furthermore, America is quite regionalized as well when it comes to the respective versions of Italian fare. New York Italian can often be quite different than what you would find in Chicago for example.

Finally, remember that the overwhelming majority of Italians in American, have their roots in southern Italy. And, coupled with the regionalization within America, well... odds are pretty good that whatever "Italian" food you're eating in any U.S. city, is at best a distant reflection of what you would find if you were dining in Naples, or Palermo, of Cosenza, or Florence, or Bologna, or Torino, or Genoa, or Rome....

 

[oaken1]

I been to a few countries.

the best food in the world is American food.
simple fact.

Tastes the best and we have lots of it. Its why, even before we started with all the processed stuff and got fat as a nation, Americans were already the biggest people on the planet.

Give me a big chicken fried steak,...garlic and butter mashed potatoes, and cover them both in a thick sausage gravy with extra black pepper.
there isnt a dish on the entire planet that can beat it. Just as good if you are in a different mood?? sure.
But better?? No ******* way.

Pizza?? Famous the world over. Invented in New York city...the italians make a version but its American food. Lots of regional variations, but no matter where you are they explode with flavor...and taste just as good cold as they did fresh.

the french eat snails...garden slugs....
Brits are still eating wartime food because they are afraid to venture into real food again.
it says a lot when one of the most popular dishes in all of europe is a thick soup made out of beets.
nobody eats beets....except people who are starving.

we dont even need to get into the flame grilled Elk steaks...because we already won with the chicken fried steak...
if said chicken fried steak needed any help at all...just dollop on a healthy portion of collard greens and pork fat...that will take it over the top.