Antonio Cromartie-runs in the family?

[Russ Smith]

For those that keep pointing out DRC likes to avoid contact. If you can find it there's a clip from the Chargers loss to the Jets they were showing on ESPN this morning that should be VERY embarassing for Antonio Cromartie. On the long TD run by Shonn Greene, Cromartie is lined up on the defensive right and moving to his left has a clear shot to dive at Greene and hit him in the hole. You can literally see him slow up, start to extend his hands and then decide not to.

Greene then hits through the hole and runs over Eric Weddle at which point Cromartie who's jogging behind him decides to accelerate and shows his impressive speed as he catches Greene and bumps him with his shoulder. Of course he's in the endzone by then.

 

[CaptTurbo]

I hope DRC doesnt try to be a tackling missle out there.

He isnt built for it. He'd be on IR in a heartbeat.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I hope DRC doesnt try to be a tackling missle out there.

He isnt built for it. He'd be on IR in a heartbeat.

An equal, if not greater number of injuries occur when players like DRC attempt to play scared and avoid contact... In football, you are either the one hitting, or the one getting hit. Choose which one you would prefer to be...

 

[Russ Smith]

I hope DRC doesnt try to be a tackling missle out there.

He isnt built for it. He'd be on IR in a heartbeat.

Oh I agree he can be so good in coverage I'm willing to live with his run defense.

But this was pretty embarassing, the guy literally gets a TD out of a run that he should have been hit in the hole 2-3 yards past the LOS if Antonio Cromartie didn't wuss out.

 

[splitsecond]

that is pretty damn embarassing

 

[Russ Smith]

that is pretty damn embarassing

Thanks I knew someone would find the clip.

In the win over GB when Dansby causes the fumble you can see DRC hold back instead of diving on the ball but to be fair, he's also using his body to "screen off" a GB player allowing other Cards to get the fumble. So while I would prefer he dove on it, at least he did something.

On this play Antonio Cromartie literally opts to slow up and avoid hitting Greene in the hole which ultimately results in a TD. But he did show off his speed there late.

Jon Lynch was all over him on ESPN for wussing out.

 

[earthsci]

Embarrassing. Sandy Eggo should punish him by trading him to Arizona for Jerheme Urban. That would show him!

 

[Russ Smith]

Embarrassing. Sandy Eggo should punish him by trading him to Arizona for Jerheme Urban. That would show him!

Yep remember the last time there were rumors Cromartie might be on the block I wanted him here. I have to admit I would still be tempted, he can be very good in coverage himself.

I'm just not sure you can have a good defense if you have 2 CB's who won't force the run. I'm perfectly happy with DRC he allows us to blitz more by taking his man 1 on 1 so much, not sure 2 guys like that will work.

I actually think the reason we played so much zone against NO was they knew going in DRC wasn't 100% and wasn't going to be able to take his man away, and once he got hurt they were afraid to play anybody else man to man very much.

 

[john h]

I hope DRC doesnt try to be a tackling missle out there.

He isnt built for it. He'd be on IR in a heartbeat.

As I recall perhaps the greatest and fastest DB of all time Deion Sanders did not have much interest in tackling. I think he was known for not tackling. But he is the guy who was the original shutdown DB.

 

[CaptTurbo]

An equal, if not greater number of injuries occur when players like DRC attempt to play scared and avoid contact... In football, you are either the one hitting, or the one getting hit. Choose which one you would prefer to be...

Not true in this case. If DRC is doing the hitting he will be hurt. Ill take him as a shut down CB thats not asked to tackle. Just get in the way and make him alter the the runners path to the inside. thats all he needs to do.

 

[conraddobler]

Not true in this case. If DRC is doing the hitting he will be hurt. Ill take him as a shut down CB thats not asked to tackle. Just get in the way and make him alter the the runners path to the inside. thats all he needs to do.

Exactly, and he does tackle, he got hurt two weeks in a row tackling a guy, just not in run support.

When you can find another guy who can run like him but hits like AW, let me know, he's worth his weight in gold, actually he'd be worth more than that by about 10 to 20 times.

 

[LDL]

Disagree, Tackling is fundamental to effective defensive play, just as avoiding being tackled is fundamental to effective offensive play. I don't expect or require DRC to be a "missle" I expect him to stick his nose in there and play. DRC=Deion in a dress...

 

[Redheart]

Disagree, Tackling is fundamental to effective defensive play, just as avoiding being tackled is fundamental to effective offensive play. I don't expect or require DRC to be a "missle" I expect him to stick his nose in there and play. DRC=Deion in a dress...

This!

DRC needs to be a missle at the ankles! Use your head and avoid the body shots because he does not have the mass for it, but he should be able to wrap up ANYBODYS ankle and at least hang on for a finisher...

 

[82CardsGrad]

Disagree, Tackling is fundamental to effective defensive play, just as avoiding being tackled is fundamental to effective offensive play. I don't expect or require DRC to be a "missle" I expect him to stick his nose in there and play. DRC=Deion in a dress...

Thank You!

 

[WarnerHOF]

That is kinda like the huge Chris Johnson touchdown run where DRC was running alongside Johnson but didn't even bother to tackle him.

 

[Russ Smith]

That is kinda like the huge Chris Johnson touchdown run where DRC was running alongside Johnson but didn't even bother to tackle him.

Except IIRC DRC came from the whole other side of the field? Brown went to his left up the sideline, DRC was on his far right and came all the way across the field and eventually caught Johnson as he went into the endzone. the dumb part there is it looked like DRC was taunting him in the endzone I'm faster than you while the guy just scored.

I don't know why anybody would want to see a race between Ocho Stinko and Johnson I'd much rather see DRC run against Johnson, but DRC can't do something like that now.

 

[Gaddabout]

I don't see the shameful part in the video. Looked like Cromartie never had an angle and had a lineman on the ground in front of him.

 

[BigDavis75]

I don't see the shameful part in the video. Looked like Cromartie never had an angle and had a lineman on the ground in front of him.

Weddle should have made the tackle also. He got absolutely embarrassed on that play.

 

[Shane]

I don't see the shameful part in the video. Looked like Cromartie never had an angle and had a lineman on the ground in front of him.

You arent looking at the rigth guy then. 31 had a clear lline to tackle him there was no OL in his way.. Yet he just watched him run right by and made no attempt at all.

 

[red desert]

Disagree, Tackling is fundamental to effective defensive play, just as avoiding being tackled is fundamental to effective offensive play. I don't expect or require DRC to be a "missle" I expect him to stick his nose in there and play. DRC=Deion in a dress...

Finally. The voice of reason.

 

[Redheart]

....DRC=Deion in a dress...

I want to focus on this. DRC sure has a lack of toughness.

Reminds me of a soccer player the way he goes down in a heap, but is really "OK" later.

Deion avoided contact, sure, but DRC is a drama-queen.

Flippin' loopy cornerback.

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't see the shameful part in the video. Looked like Cromartie never had an angle and had a lineman on the ground in front of him.

The one they showed on ESPN was better but he had a clear angle to Greene if he'd come in and dove he would have definitely hit him, slowed him down at least, but as he starts to extend his hands you can almost see him decide not to and he just slows up. He only accelerates after he realizes Weddle got trucked.

Even Derrick Brooks, who's an FSU guy, said it was embarassing.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Maybe I am delusional but I want DRC to take it to Revis level next year. I am not enamored with his tackling 100% of the time but I think alot of people are conveniently forgetting he has made alot of good sticks this year including one in the NO game before he got injured (might have been the first play of the game)...

Bottom line we have bigger things to worry about then the tackling of our 2nd year Pro Bowl starting corner

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I want to focus on this. DRC sure has a lack of toughness.

Reminds me of a soccer player the way he goes down in a heap, but is really "OK" later.

Deion avoided contact, sure, but DRC is a drama-queen.

Flippin' loopy cornerback.

Jesus. We want all of our players to have no strengths and weaknesses and be 100% fundamental, fast, hard hitting, playmaking, 6'4, 250, run a 4.2, and never injured.

Again get over it. He's a lot bigger part of the solution then he is the problem and I don't think he deserves the flak he is getting in this thread.

And FYI he's alot better then his cousin. That has been proven now.

 

[ANDY440]

Warner tackles even worse.... Ben Graham did a nice Cromartie on that punt return for a TD also.