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I think he’s the best player in the class & a tier above than the rest of the defensive class.
Plus, he is a spot on scheme fit. I feel like the fans on this message board, as well as the local media (and national for that matter) have not taken the time to actually study and understand Rallis’ defense.

Multiple defensive line-looks, disguising and simulated pressure might be the most fundamental pillars in Rallis’ nickel defense, and they are in nickel on like 70-75% of all defensive snaps. Reese has so many skills that the opponent will never have a chance of guessing what he will do at a given play. With Bailey, they can pretty much make an easy and fast probability calculus to figure out that he will likely rush. I am not saying that role is not important in the system, but so is Reese’s.

Another thing nobody mention is how Rallis was part of maximizing Haason Reddick (16 sacks, five forced fumbled), who is probably the best NFL comparison for Reese (other than Micah Parsons). Or how the Cards just hired Teryl Austin, who has many years of experience coaching up edge rushers like Nick Herbig, Alex Highsmith and T.J. Watt to become big NFL contributors in somewhat similar roles to what Reese would do.

I am obviously not saying that Reese will without a doubt become a star, but to argue that it would be a bad pick is simply just very strange.
 

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He's not. He's more Micah Parson than Simmons. Another thing about Reese is that he's all about football. Money won't affect his ability to work.
People need to get over the “he’s Simmons 2.0!!!!!! Never ever draft a hybrid-player again in human history!!!”

There is a major difference between being versatile or being homeless. Simmons was homeless. Reese has a clearly defined role and the ability to cover a few positions.
 

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People need to get over the “he’s Simmons 2.0!!!!!! Never ever draft a hybrid-player again in human history!!!”

There is a major difference between being versatile or being homeless. Simmons was homeless. Reese has a clearly defined role and the ability to cover a few positions.
I have changed my mind about him….if we can’t get Bailey or my first choice Francis I am going to be excited about it…then fill the offensive tackle spot or Simpson next
 

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You players like Peterson,Sanders,Barkley etc shouldnt be drafted early just because of their position?
Krang's going to try to paint the picture that when Love's breaking off 60+ yard TD runs and contesting for the league rushing title, that we're totally better off with our RT that hovers around 12th best in the league, as Conner/Allgeier plods for 3.5 yards on 2nd down to get us to 3rd and 7... because he'll be around to be 12th best for a few more years contractually.

Monti will have lost his job, but at least we'll be able to wear the badge of signing a "good" OT to a second contract.
 

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Krang's going to try to paint the picture that when Love's breaking off 60+ yard TD runs and contesting for the league rushing title, that we're totally better off with our RT that hovers around 12th best in the league, as Conner/Allgeier plods for 3.5 yards on 2nd down to get us to 3rd and 7... because he'll be around to be 12th best for a few more years contractually.

Monti will have lost his job, but at least we'll be able to wear the badge of signing a "good" OT to a second contract.
Let's see, 3-5 ypc x 3 downs = 10.5 yds...I'll take the plodding
If it were only that easy...;)
 

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Guys I know some may not like Love at 3 here is my actual take Ok Connor is 31 coming off a major injury who is to say he can come back even at 75%,Algier is good but has he ever been a number 1 300-400 carries in a season, Benson again coming off injury again has shown Zero signs of being a number 1 Now there is a chance to draft a true Number 1 in Love Ime not saying he will lead us to the playoffs but he will damn sure make it easier for the offense to perform better than last year
 

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Krang's going to try to paint the picture that when Love's breaking off 60+ yard TD runs and contesting for the league rushing title, that we're totally better off with our RT that hovers around 12th best in the league, as Conner/Allgeier plods for 3.5 yards on 2nd down to get us to 3rd and 7... because he'll be around to be 12th best for a few more years contractually.

Monti will have lost his job, but at least we'll be able to wear the badge of signing a "good" OT to a second contract.
Remember Saquon Barkley? A guy a full tier ahead of Love as a prospect.

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After his first year he really wasn't very good for the Giants. He was the same guy that rushed for 2,000 yards on the Eagles in 2024, but behind the Giants OL, he was a plodder. Running backs are completely dependent on their blockers to rack up stats.

A more recent example. The Raiders took Jeanty (another RB who is better than Love) at 6 when most thought they should have taken Kelvin Banks Jr. the epitome of a mid level starter OT as a prospect, who was taken at 9 by the Saints. Banks was not elite, but he was very serviceable; the Saints had good OL play and their rookie QB really emerged down the stretch. Jeanty had to break 3 tackles just to get to the LOS. He did nothing.

The Saints have spent 3 1st round picks on OTs in 4 years (one was an unplayable bust who is off the team). Now they're slated to have a very good offense next year, and they dont need help at RB, they signed former 1st rounder Travis ETN for 12 million a year. Meanwhile the Raiders just had to pay A CENTER 27 million a year, and they still need OT help badly.

Kelvin Banks Jr. was graded by PFF as the 31st best OT in the league. Jeanty is a top 5 RB. Who was the better pick?

Around the league there's no debate, the Saints OT 31 is universally considered a way better pick than the elite RB the Raiders took. Even getting an OT who is just BARELY in the top 50% of starters is huge. The guys who are below that threshold destroy plays at an alarming rate with bad blocking. If our guy is OT 12, that is infinitely more valuable than Love can ever be. Running and passing plays cannot be executed successfully without good blocking. If you dont have that you have nothing.

Elite (or at least very good) running backs are available in free agency almost every year. SERVICABLE OTs never make it to free agency. Both LTs and RTs make more than double what RBs make, yet teams always have money to pay them.

If we take Love without a real plan at RT and QB, he will suck on the Cardinals. You won't get to see him shine until he hits free agency and signs with another team. Elite RBs do not make bad offenses good. You really think he would be competing for the league's rushing title here? He'd be a volume sponge running into stacked boxes, he might get a chance for a 3 breakaway runs a season.

I guess Love is a good pick if the plan is to tank for #1 overall in 2027? But there's no way we out tank the Browns.
 
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Remember Saquon Barkley? A guy a full tier ahead of Love as a prospect.

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After his first year he really wasn't very good for the Giants. He was the same guy that rushed for 2,000 yards on the Eagles in 2024, but behind the Giants OL, he was a plodder. Running backs are completely dependent on their blockers to rack up stats.

A more recent example. The Raiders took Jeanty (another RB who is better than Love) at 6 when most thought they should have taken Kelvin Banks Jr. the epitome of a mid level starter OT as a prospect, who was taken at 9 by the Saints. Banks was not elite, but he was very serviceable; the Saints had good OL play and their rookie QB really emerged down the stretch. Jeanty had to break 3 tackles just to get to the LOS. He did nothing.

The Saints have spent 3 1st round picks on OTs in 4 years (one was an unplayable bust who is off the team). Now they're slated to have a very good offense next year, and they dont need help at RB, they signed former 1st rounder Travis ETN for 12 million a year. Meanwhile the Raiders just had to pay A CENTER 27 million a year, and they still need OT help badly.

Kelvin Banks Jr. was graded by PFF as the 31st best OT in the league. Jeanty is a top 5 RB. Who was the better pick?

Around the league there's no debate, the Saints OT 31 is universally considered a way better pick than the elite RB the Raiders took. Even getting an OT who is just BARELY in the top 50% of starters is huge. The guys who are below that threshold destroy plays at an alarming rate with bad blocking. If our guy is OT 12, that is infinitely more valuable than Love can ever be. Running and passing plays cannot be executed successfully without good blocking. If you dont have that you have nothing.

Elite (or at least very good) running backs are available in free agency almost every year. SERVICABLE OTs never make it to free agency. Both LTs and RTs make more than double what RBs make, yet teams always have money to pay them.

If we take Love without a real plan at RT and QB, he will suck on the Cardinals. You won't get to see him shine until he hits free agency and signs with another team. Elite RBs do not make bad offenses good. You really think he would be competing for the league's rushing title here? He'd be a volume sponge running into stacked boxes, he might get a chance for a 3 breakaway runs a season.

I guess Love is a good pick if the plan is to tank for #1 overall in 2027? But there's no way we out tank the Browns.
Im not even going to debate the obvious holes in your position.

for me it boils down to one thing.

we need a playmaker. we need excitement...something to be excited for the season for...anything.
and the OT they can draft with their 2nd pick is just a few points behind the guy at 3...and they may be better than the guy at 3 in a year or two.

the difference between bad back mauigoa...and big Max from ASU is not 30 draft slots...and Max has far better prospects.
so get the exciting RB, the offensive firepower...
then use the second pick...either at 34,..or trade up 6 slots or so and get your OT...

then with the first pick in the third round...draft a Guard.

Problem solved. Solid line...exciting running game.
 

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Im not even going to debate the obvious holes in your position.

for me it boils down to one thing.

we need a playmaker. we need excitement...something to be excited for the season for...anything.
and the OT they can draft with their 2nd pick is just a few points behind the guy at 3...and they may be better than the guy at 3 in a year or two.

the difference between bad back mauigoa...and big Max from ASU is not 30 draft slots...and Max has far better prospects.
so get the exciting RB, the offensive firepower...
then use the second pick...either at 34,..or trade up 6 slots or so and get your OT...

then with the first pick in the third round...draft a Guard.

Problem solved. Solid line...exciting running game.
I hear you but what are you using to move back into rd 1 because I bet all the OTs are gone before rd 2. Plus our pass rush will still SUCK.
 
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I hear you but what are you using to move back into rd 1 because I bet all the OTs are gone before rd 2. Plus our pass rush will still SUCK.
A 4th should get a swap of pick 34 up to around 26 or so....maybe add in a pick swap in the 6th or something if we need a sweetener.
Nothing past the first three picks really matters anyway...
Odds of success drop dramatically after the top 100...outside of ST players
 

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Krang's going to try to paint the picture that when Love's breaking off 60+ yard TD runs and contesting for the league rushing title, that we're totally better off with our RT that hovers around 12th best in the league, as Conner/Allgeier plods for 3.5 yards on 2nd down to get us to 3rd and 7... because he'll be around to be 12th best for a few more years contractually.

Monti will have lost his job, but at least we'll be able to wear the badge of signing a "good" OT to a second contract.
Love didn't even compete for the college rushing title. He's on had 20 carries in his career three times.

Madness.
 

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Remember Saquon Barkley? A guy a full tier ahead of Love as a prospect.

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After his first year he really wasn't very good for the Giants. He was the same guy that rushed for 2,000 yards on the Eagles in 2024, but behind the Giants OL, he was a plodder. Running backs are completely dependent on their blockers to rack up stats.

A more recent example. The Raiders took Jeanty (another RB who is better than Love) at 6 when most thought they should have taken Kelvin Banks Jr. the epitome of a mid level starter OT as a prospect, who was taken at 9 by the Saints. Banks was not elite, but he was very serviceable; the Saints had good OL play and their rookie QB really emerged down the stretch. Jeanty had to break 3 tackles just to get to the LOS. He did nothing.

The Saints have spent 3 1st round picks on OTs in 4 years (one was an unplayable bust who is off the team). Now they're slated to have a very good offense next year, and they dont need help at RB, they signed former 1st rounder Travis ETN for 12 million a year. Meanwhile the Raiders just had to pay A CENTER 27 million a year, and they still need OT help badly.

Kelvin Banks Jr. was graded by PFF as the 31st best OT in the league. Jeanty is a top 5 RB. Who was the better pick?

Around the league there's no debate, the Saints OT 31 is universally considered a way better pick than the elite RB the Raiders took. Even getting an OT who is just BARELY in the top 50% of starters is huge. The guys who are below that threshold destroy plays at an alarming rate with bad blocking. If our guy is OT 12, that is infinitely more valuable than Love can ever be. Running and passing plays cannot be executed successfully without good blocking. If you dont have that you have nothing.

Elite (or at least very good) running backs are available in free agency almost every year. SERVICABLE OTs never make it to free agency. Both LTs and RTs make more than double what RBs make, yet teams always have money to pay them.

If we take Love without a real plan at RT and QB, he will suck on the Cardinals. You won't get to see him shine until he hits free agency and signs with another team. Elite RBs do not make bad offenses good. You really think he would be competing for the league's rushing title here? He'd be a volume sponge running into stacked boxes, he might get a chance for a 3 breakaway runs a season.

I guess Love is a good pick if the plan is to tank for #1 overall in 2027? But there's no way we out tank the Browns.
This. All of this. Jeanty had a historic season at Boise State, and a disappointing rookie season with the Raiders under very similar circumstances to what Love would have with the Cardinals.

I view drafting Love as putting the cart before the horse. Love isn't a power back and doesn't make his own holes.

I would be excited to draft Love IF the OL was in better shape, but it's currently in a pretty bad shape with Wilkerson, who is a bottom five starting RT in the league.
 

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Im not even going to debate the obvious holes in your position.

for me it boils down to one thing.

we need a playmaker. we need excitement...something to be excited for the season for...anything.
and the OT they can draft with their 2nd pick is just a few points behind the guy at 3...and they may be better than the guy at 3 in a year or two.

the difference between bad back mauigoa...and big Max from ASU is not 30 draft slots...and Max has far better prospects.
so get the exciting RB, the offensive firepower...
then use the second pick...either at 34,..or trade up 6 slots or so and get your OT...

then with the first pick in the third round...draft a Guard.

Problem solved. Solid line...exciting running game.
Hell Ide go even farther draft O line the entire rest of the draft if thats their highest rated at the positions didnt the Bears do kinda the same a year ago and the playoffs of course wont happen but it would certainly be interesting wouldnt it
 

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Im not even going to debate the obvious holes in your position.

for me it boils down to one thing.

we need a playmaker. we need excitement...something to be excited for the season for...anything.
and the OT they can draft with their 2nd pick is just a few points behind the guy at 3...and they may be better than the guy at 3 in a year or two.

the difference between bad back mauigoa...and big Max from ASU is not 30 draft slots...and Max has far better prospects.
so get the exciting RB, the offensive firepower...
then use the second pick...either at 34,..or trade up 6 slots or so and get your OT...

then with the first pick in the third round...draft a Guard.

Problem solved. Solid line...exciting running game.
I have not heard of any team putting a health red flag on Mauigoa. The back condition was considered minor. The recheck was strictly precautionary and made him an even safer choice.
 

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Francis..Bailey or Reese….
Reese scares me a bit but he's my 2nd choice. Bailey is my first choice. The drop off for pass rushers is fairly steep after these 2. Bain is intriguing but the short arms are a big concern.
I like Francis but the OT group is deep and fairly similar talent wise. If a run starts on OTs then trade up into rd 1 to get one.

Imo the RT and edge positions are the glaring needs so I would prefer they're addressed in the first two rounds.
 

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For a RB prospect that’s a good thing. A lot of these guys get run into the ground in college.

Career touches + yards per play + TD’s:
Gibbs: 487 + 6.9 + 23
Love: 496 + 7.0 + 42
Not necessarily. He never fully carried a load. Can he handle the burden of 20+ touches a game over 17 weeks?

Highly drafted backs usually have more touches in their college career because they've proven they can be workhorses.
 

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