2026 Draft

[Krangodnzr]

I'm not educated enough to answer that question, but this thread seems to have some good insight:

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Specific to Bailey vs. Carter:

"I was a big fan of Carter last year and I believe he probably has the edge in regards to pure athleticism, but I'd still have them on the same tier as a prospect. I think Bailey has a better blend of power/speed with really polished finesse moves to go with it. Carter was able to rely more on his freak athleticism to win at the point of attack, whereas Bailey is a more well-rounded edge rusher. They both have All-Pro potential in their future, but if I had to pick between the two, I'd lean slightly towards Bailey."

Comparing the 3 flavors:

"We have three edge rushers who are completely different from each other and all can be really special. I think Bailey is the safest option, great tools for pass rusher high motor just wants to kill his guy the most traditional pass rusher prospect of the three. Bain will end up being one of the best interior rushers in the nfl which is a position that will increase in value. I don’t think he can hang with elite tackles in the nfl just on his measurable. Reese has the highest ceiling but has limited reps showing his pass rush ability , his athleticism and him playing as a linebacker means he can chases down mobile QBs . You can play 4-3 ,3-4 hybrid defense with him on the field which if you have the right coordinators can be really cool."


FWIW, these guys love Bailey:

1. "Bailey has an elite first step that allows him to beat tackles off the line with quickness. He packs a violent first punch at the POA and can knock linemen who are much heavier off of their pass set. His pass rush repertoire is extensive and very polished, as he has above average rip, swipe, and spin moves he can use when he does not beat them with speed, plus an improving speed-to-power move."
2. "Against the run, Bailey consistently plays through the whistle and can out-leverage much bigger linemen in order to disrupt running backs in the backfield. His first-step agility allows him to sidestep tackles and create early wins. He does a good job jabbing to create space on the outside and prefers to work out around blocks instead of through them."
3. "Bailey can afford to add more mass into his frame without sacrificing his quickness as a pass rusher. Against top competition, he may struggle to use long-arm power moves given the size mismatch. Bailey can lose some rush lane integrity on his pursuit of the quarterback, especially when running wide. He will need to continue to improve his counter moves if he wants to maintain his rate of pressure on the quarterback."
4. One of the stats we track is "expected pressure rate." This compares a player's actual pressure rate to the rate expected vs alignment, situation, and other factors. Bailey's pressure rate was 24% vs an expected rate of 12%. The 12% differential was the biggest for any EDGE prospect in this year's draft class.

In any event, I don't think I'm taking a RT over these guys.

I'm with you, but if the OL doesn't look a lot better, I'd probably take Mauigoa. The OL has lacked talent for so long and it's hard to pass up a good OL prospect.

 

[Chopper0080]

He absolutely sucked and is a head case to boot

And if Bailey shows the same…stay away. But in terms of production and size, they are close with Bailey being more productive and larger .

 

[Chopper0080]

Perhaps I’m wrong about the talking heads. I just haven’t seen a lot of fanfare for Bailey like we did for Carter.

And that’s my point. I think people just aren’t recognizing the similarities

 

[Chopper0080]

Darrell Jackson Jr is a huge human. Nice DT prospect. Rnd 2 or 3 guy

 

[Chopper0080]

Some good DTs gonna go in rounds 2 and 3

 

[oaken1]

I'm with you, but if the OL doesn't look a lot better, I'd probably take Mauigoa. The OL has lacked talent for so long and it's hard to pass up a good OL prospect.

The ASU kid should be available later in the first ...maybe even at 34....and he projects as an immediate start solid RT...so wait for 34, or if a run on OT's starts up then give 34 and a 4th or 5th to move up 8 slots or so.
Agree we need offensive line. But we can get a strong IOL guy in the 4th...and we should sign a FA ORT before the draft...so our hand isn't forced...(had to do Offensive Right Tackle so my acronym didn't spell fart)
Rd 1 Defense... Bailey or the Safety
Rd 2 QB or RT
Rd3 QB or RT
Rd4 IOL... OC or OG, either is fine...if we draft an OC here we can use Frodo at guard if the rookie is comparable or better

That's kinda what my draft plan looks like right now... finish out the draft with some athletic specimens along the D line and off ball linebacker groups.
But be open to the idea of drafting a field stretcher WR if one falls in our lap.

Imo, if we like a QB at 34... I would trade back into the first just to get the fifth year...wouldn't take much to jump up to the 28-32 range for an extra year of control.

I like Drew Allar.. prototype nfl qb with all the tools that regressed under a piss poor coach.

Nussmeier was a star in the making before injury...but the potential is still there.

Beck...has the best QB resume in the draft and would have been a first rounder last year if not for a broken shoulder...so he played another year and took Miami to the Natty...but somehow he is suddenly an also ran...might have peaked already though

I would be fine with using 34 and a 5th to get any of those 3 guys...but Allar would need to sit a year...
I think someone is going to get a steal with Nussmeier

 

[Chopper0080]

Zane Durant is giving some Dante Stills vibes. Maybe a little more explosive version. Moves real well and could be a nice backup 3 technique.

 

[Chopper0080]

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[Delmar M Lewis]

The ASU kid should be available later in the first ...maybe even at 34....and he projects as an immediate start solid RT...so wait for 34, or if a run on OT's starts up then give 34 and a 4th or 5th to move up 8 slots or so.
Agree we need offensive line. But we can get a strong IOL guy in the 4th...and we should sign a FA ORT before the draft...so our hand isn't forced...(had to do Offensive Right Tackle so my acronym didn't spell fart)
Rd 1 Defense... Bailey or the Safety
Rd 2 QB or RT
Rd3 QB or RT
Rd4 IOL... OC or OG, either is fine...if we draft an OC here we can use Frodo at guard if the rookie is comparable or better

That's kinda what my draft plan looks like right now... finish out the draft with some athletic specimens along the D line and off ball linebacker groups.
But be open to the idea of drafting a field stretcher WR if one falls in our lap.

Imo, if we like a QB at 34... I would trade back into the first just to get the fifth year...wouldn't take much to jump up to the 28-32 range for an extra year of control.

I like Drew Allar.. prototype nfl qb with all the tools that regressed under a piss poor coach.

Nussmeier was a star in the making before injury...but the potential is still there.

Beck...has the best QB resume in the draft and would have been a first rounder last year if not for a broken shoulder...so he played another year and took Miami to the Natty...but somehow he is suddenly an also ran...might have peaked already though

I would be fine with using 34 and a 5th to get any of those 3 guys...but Allar would need to sit a year...
I think someone is going to get a steal with Nussmeier

I like your thinking although after Bailey's combine performance he may not make it to 3 in which case Bain or the OT wouldnt be a bad consolation throw a monkey wrench in and Take Love also this team hasnt really had a super back since the OJ Anderson days many were good but what the latest Ime reading is Love is creeping up into Peterson hype and we all know how that turned out and yes I agree with Nussmeir just my feeling though

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Steelers among teams taking a close look at Penn State QB Drew Allar

At one point last year, Penn State quarterback Drew Allar was the betting favorite to be the first overall pick in the 2026 NFL draft.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[HairZach]

The best part of this draft, no matter who we take, someone is going to be upset by it. There isnt a single choice that is universally appealing.

If Reese isnt there I'm starting to want Sonny Styles. We're already considering taking a safety, a converted ILB, or a guy with bottom 1% arm length, or a RT who many consider a guard.

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C'mon Monti, do what Keim couldn't, finally find a good 1st round ILB.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The best part of this draft, no matter who we take, someone is going to be upset by it. There isnt a single choice that is universally appealing.

If Reese isnt there I'm starting to want Sonny Styles. We're already considering taking a safety, a converted ILB, or a guy with bottom 1% arm length, or a RT who many consider a guard.

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C'mon Monti, do what Keim couldn't, finally find a good 1st round ILB.

At 3?

 

[Shane]

At 3?

no thank you

 

[SpokaneCardfan]

Darrell Jackson Jr is a huge human. Nice DT prospect. Rnd 2 or 3 guy

He really stood out when all the D- linemen were cuddling. The guy is a monster.

 

[GatorAZ]

The best part of this draft, no matter who we take, someone is going to be upset by it. There isnt a single choice that is universally appealing.

If Reese isnt there I'm starting to want Sonny Styles. We're already considering taking a safety, a converted ILB, or a guy with bottom 1% arm length, or a RT who many consider a guard.

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C'mon Monti, do what Keim couldn't, finally find a good 1st round ILB.

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Reese will be there at 3. He’s undoubtedly the pick vs Styles because he’s a more projectable edge. Styles is definitely an alien though.

 

[Minski]

My current wishlist...

1. Trade down staying in top 10 (for 2027 picks) and pick one of the players below.
2. Bain
3. Love
4. Mauigoa

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Another thing I forgot to mention about Styles is he's a grabber when it comes to tackling. Not a hit and wrap guy.

 

[HairZach]

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Reese will be there at 3. He’s undoubtedly the pick vs Styles because he’s a more projectable edge. Styles is definitely an alien though.

Probably. I am hearing more chatter that Reese should be an off ball linebacker in the NFL rather than move to edge.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Another thing I forgot to mention about Styles is he's a grabber when it comes to tackling. Not a hit and wrap guy.

Pass

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Probably. I am hearing more chatter that Reese should be an off ball linebacker in the NFL rather than move to edge.

A dude with debate about where he plays? Pass.

 

[Harry]

I’ve seen Eric Berry as well on the inter webs. And one said Polamalu. I’d be good with either.

Not as good as Berry, but some resemblance to Polamalu

 

[Harry]

Honest question…how is Bailey not as good of a prospect as Abdul Carter
Who went 3 last year?

Setting the edge concern, though Carter had some soft games

 

[Harry]

Another honest question, as I don't know the answer. How did Abdul Carter do as a rookie?

Very bad early, but improved late; not a star.

 

[Harry]

Bailey seems like a solid pick that would slide right into a starting spot across from Sweat..
I been convinced Monti would go OT in round 1...but the way the talent lays out...get Bailey at 3...then get a QB or the OT from ASWho at 34...
Then in the third either go QB or IOL

Likely would come out on obvious running downs

 

[Harry]

We brought in a bunch of Miami guys, maybe we take a chance on Bain. I have a feeling the Jets take Bailey.

One of the safest picks. If he can’t play outside, he’s pretty certain inside.