2025 Arizona Cardinals Regular Season Thread

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That's not real comforting when you look at the QBs Monti has brought in. Clayton Tune, Josh Dobbs, Desmond Ridder, Jacoby Brissett and Kedon Slovis (I know I am forgetting some. But how good were they when they are less memorable than Kedon Slovis?). Not good. I have no confidence in his ability to evaluate QBs because that is a dismal record.
Who did you expect him to bring in when he was saddled with almighty Kyler at over 50 mill per season. I would Say the Jocobey signing was regarded as a positive, no?
 

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A top 10 receiver in 2 of 3 drafts? Hell with that.
I actually really like this, if we had a QB in place. It seems outside of QB and Edge rusher, WRs are the next highest paid position. So you want to draft these positions to keep the potential costs low. (of course, this assumes you have faith in the GM to make the correct decisions)

However, it seems like we are in QB purgatory like most of my fandom...
 

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Arizona Cardinals
2025 record: 3-11
  • Cap space ranking: No. 17 | Draft capital ranking: No. 8 | Average: 12.5
  • Team needs: OT, WR, RB, IOL, LB

The Cards are in line to finish well behind their counterparts in the NFC West and extend their drought without a playoff win to 10 seasons -- so they'll enter the offseason with major questions. First, after the 2025 additions of Josh Sweat, Dalvin Tomlinson and Calais Campbell failed to translate to wins, how much will the Cardinals want to spend on a team that's not ready to compete now? Second, how will they use their first-rounder -- currently slated to be sixth overall, which would mark their third time in the past four drafts making a top-six pick -- to set this roster up for the future?

And then there is the most consequential question surrounding the Cardinals: What will they do at quarterback? Specifically, should they continue with Kyler Murray, who is ending the season on injured reserve after a five-game stint in which he averaged less than 200 passing yards, or seek to trade or release him? A trade seems unlikely, given his new team would owe Murray $42.5 million in cash in 2026 and then another fully guaranteed $19.5 million in 2027 -- that's far from the kind of cheap prove-it deal you want when taking a flier on a change-of-scenery veteran. Releasing Murray would give the Cardinals $54.7 million in dead money to deal with, while gaining them just $1.5 million in cap space. Then again, this could be the offseason for Arizona to do a hard reset, and moving on from Murray might be part of that, regardless of the cap consequences.
 
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Yeah, Monti rode with Kyler for three years. But, not his fault, right? And, none of the other crud QBs on our roster the last three years can be blamed on him either. Not his fault either.

No. Having a QB locked into record amounts of dead money is not his fault.
 

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I feel like this has been discussed on here often. It's not the one miss with Monti, it's how many misses he has had in several different areas.
Lesson learned. He prioritized need over talent. I doubt he makes that mistake again.
 

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Lesson learned. He prioritized need over talent. I doubt he makes that mistake again.
Lessons Monti has learned.

1 - Don't set your team to tank in year one by intentionally gutting an already bad roster. Even slightly sub par rosters lose.

2 - Mid to late draft picks are crap shoots. If you can trade them to acquire legit NFL talent, you need to do so.

3 - If you don't have a timing and rhythm QB, don't invest a lot into WRs who win with timing and route running. Your QB will not maximize them.

4 - You can't predict the timelines of development for young players. If you want to ensure growth for the team, invest in more vets than you feel you need. The cream will rise to the top.

5 - It's really hard to draft top NFL players, and a roster of mid only get you so far. Sometimes you have to spend money to improve your ceiling.

6 - The mid FA world is tough because they are low reward. Rarely do mid signings turn out to be top guys. Most often they either meet expectations or just disappoint.

7 - You can't time when you want to add players at certain positions. Take each FA and draft class for what they have to offer, and focus on taking advantage of the strengths offered.

8 - It's easier to teach players to stop the run than rush the passer.

9 - Don't draft players whose success will invalidate your other drafted players.

and so on and so on...
 

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That means less than nothing. Monti has sat on tons of cap space in his tenure.
Agreed. The pro-Monti arguments have similar substance to the pro-Gannon and pro-Murray arguments. they all take a small positive piece and use that as a foundation that the future will be better while blaming others as to why the success has not happened so far.
 
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