2020-21 Around the NBA Thread

[Finito]

Nobody is as bad as Chris Webber

 

[Mainstreet]

It's looking like Derrick Rose may go to Knicks.

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[Ronin]

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[Carolinacacti]

When the Suns played the Pistons the other day I was going to post how Josh Jackson looked bad. Then last night he lights up LA. Wish they would of won but not a fan of either

 

[Mainstreet]

When the Suns played the Pistons the other day I was going to post how Josh Jackson looked bad. Then last night he lights up LA. Wish they would of won but not a fan of either

Unlike other former Suns players I don't pay a lot of attention to Josh Jackson on the court.

Maybe it's because he does not exhibit the overwhelming urge to beat the Suns or at least it's not obvious.

 

[Hoop Head]

When the Suns played the Pistons the other day I was going to post how Josh Jackson looked bad. Then last night he lights up LA. Wish they would of won but not a fan of either

So he's similar to how he was here, having one good game every 7 or 8 he plays. He's got talent but he doesn't seem able to put it together consistently.

 

[GatorAZ]

It's looking like Derrick Rose may go to Knicks.

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Hard to believe this version was 10 years ago...

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[Mainstreet]

Hard to believe this version was 10 years ago...

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Rose would be a good pickup by the Knicks who are playing better than I thought.

 

[Finito]

https://m.worldstar.com/web/video.php?v=wshhXU3tiUBTK3FdEWCB


so fans are back

 

[Ronin]

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Josh Jackson

 

[Finito]

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I’ve missed on plenty but this is one I did call. I said he would be better than both Fultz and Ball

that night he took Balls lunch money in the tournament was eye opening. Watching that like wow

 

[Mainstreet]

I believe the original thread on this forum regarding the death of Kobe Bryant is closed so I will put this information here.

Per AP News via ESPN:

LOS ANGELES -- U.S. safety investigators said Tuesday that the pilot of Kobe Bryant's helicopter flew through the clouds last year in an apparent violation of federal standards, likely becoming disoriented just before the helicopter crashed and killed Bryant and eight others.

Robert Sumwalt, chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board, said that pilot Ara Zobayan was flying under visual flight rules, which meant that he needed to be able to see where he was going.

Zobayan piloted the aircraft to climb sharply and had nearly broken through the clouds when the Sikorsky S-76 helicopter banked abruptly and plunged into the Southern California hills below, killing all aboard.

The helicopter did not have so-called "black box" recording devices, which were not required.

The revelation during a hearing to announce the probable cause or causes of the crash followed plenty of finger-pointing.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...obe-bryant-daughter-gianna-disoriented-clouds

 

[BC867]

When I read recent articles, I was curious to see if there would be a comment here.

As you know, I was critical of Kobe's involvement in the crash.

This article cites the pilot's "pressure to perform for a high-profile client".

If Kobe, sitting in the cockpit in the co-pilot's chair said, "Let's turn
around, it's only a basketball game.", the pilot would be performing
for his high-profile client by doing so.

Evidently, Kobe did not, maintaining the pilot's pressure to satisfy him.
For that reason, Kobe shares a lot of the blame!

Which is why I posted what I did after the tragedy. Kobe had the chance to
take the pressure off the pilot to avoid flying into the hillsides in heavy fog.

This is not about L.A. fans vs. Phoenix fans. It is about how a deadly crash
that the took the lives of adults and children should have been avoided.

And about a pilot recklessly trying to please his client, who didn't speak up.

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/09/us/k...6R/3GSEzRWtTUEIetGAP8o6k=&bt_ts=1612891599928

 

[Russ Smith]

Hopefully this works. Like he wasn't good enough already, Steph Curry is rapidly becoming Rod Strickland finishing at the rim.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=30869899

 

[Cheesebeef]

When I read recent articles, I was curious to see if there would be a comment here.

As you know, I was critical of Kobe's involvement in the crash.

This article cites the pilot's "pressure to perform for a high-profile client".

If Kobe, sitting in the cockpit in the co-pilot's chair said, "Let's turn
around, it's only a basketball game.", the pilot would be performing
for his high-profile client by doing so.

Evidently, Kobe did not, maintaining the pilot's pressure to satisfy him.
For that reason, Kobe shares a lot of the blame!

Which is why I posted what I did after the tragedy. Kobe had the chance to
take the pressure off the pilot to avoid flying into the hillsides in heavy fog.

This is not about L.A. fans vs. Phoenix fans. It is about how a deadly crash
that the took the lives of adults and children should have been avoided.

And about a pilot recklessly trying to please his client, who didn't speak up.

You must be registered for see images attach

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/09/us/kobe-bryant-crash-ntsb-investigation-report/index.html?utm_term=1612891599927ba12dda36bb3&utm_source=cnn_Breaking+News&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1612891599928&bt_ee=wrDbE/ATjy/vYrYf0N96R/3GSEzRWtTUEIetGAP8o6k=&bt_ts=1612891599928

Are you freaking kidding me? You’re right. This isn’t about Suns fans v. Laker fans. You know why that is? Because NO ONE here is a a freaking Laker fan. This is about normal Suns fans and one Suns fan who keeps finding ways to spit on someone’s grave to satisfy their bizarre obsession.

You want a comment? You’re deranged.

 

[Chaplin]

When I read recent articles, I was curious to see if there would be a comment here.

As you know, I was critical of Kobe's involvement in the crash.

This article cites the pilot's "pressure to perform for a high-profile client".

If Kobe, sitting in the cockpit in the co-pilot's chair said, "Let's turn
around, it's only a basketball game.", the pilot would be performing
for his high-profile client by doing so.

Evidently, Kobe did not, maintaining the pilot's pressure to satisfy him.
For that reason, Kobe shares a lot of the blame!

Which is why I posted what I did after the tragedy. Kobe had the chance to
take the pressure off the pilot to avoid flying into the hillsides in heavy fog.

This is not about L.A. fans vs. Phoenix fans. It is about how a deadly crash
that the took the lives of adults and children should have been avoided.

And about a pilot recklessly trying to please his client, who didn't speak up.

You must be registered for see images attach

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/09/us/kobe-bryant-crash-ntsb-investigation-report/index.html?utm_term=1612891599927ba12dda36bb3&utm_source=cnn_Breaking+News&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1612891599928&bt_ee=wrDbE/ATjy/vYrYf0N96R/3GSEzRWtTUEIetGAP8o6k=&bt_ts=1612891599928

I know you've got me on ignore, but I can't believe you are doubling down on this. You can speak about hypotheticals all you want, but it just makes you look like you're out to place blame on Kobe Bryant no matter what.

 

[Hoop Head]

When I read recent articles, I was curious to see if there would be a comment here.

As you know, I was critical of Kobe's involvement in the crash.

This article cites the pilot's "pressure to perform for a high-profile client".

If Kobe, sitting in the cockpit in the co-pilot's chair said, "Let's turn
around, it's only a basketball game.", the pilot would be performing
for his high-profile client by doing so.

Evidently, Kobe did not, maintaining the pilot's pressure to satisfy him.
For that reason, Kobe shares a lot of the blame!

Which is why I posted what I did after the tragedy. Kobe had the chance to
take the pressure off the pilot to avoid flying into the hillsides in heavy fog.

This is not about L.A. fans vs. Phoenix fans. It is about how a deadly crash
that the took the lives of adults and children should have been avoided.

And about a pilot recklessly trying to please his client, who didn't speak up.

You must be registered for see images attach

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/09/us/kobe-bryant-crash-ntsb-investigation-report/index.html?utm_term=1612891599927ba12dda36bb3&utm_source=cnn_Breaking+News&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1612891599928&bt_ee=wrDbE/ATjy/vYrYf0N96R/3GSEzRWtTUEIetGAP8o6k=&bt_ts=1612891599928

It says the pilot was close friends with Kobe so its not out of sorts for Kobe to trust his judgement when he's flying since he's a pilot and Kobe isn't. When the pilot, who is your friend, continues flying then most would assume its because he knows what he's doing. I say most and not all because you've proven to think completely different than your average rational human that isn't a pilot.

 

[BC867]

Are you freaking kidding me? You’re right. This isn’t about Suns fans v. Laker fans. You know why that is? Because NO ONE here is a a freaking Laker fan. This is about normal Suns fans and one Suns fan who keeps finding ways to spit on someone’s grave to satisfy their bizarre obsession.

You want a comment? You’re deranged.

You didn't respond with a comment about the article I referenced.

Which stated specifically . . . the pilot's pressure to perform for a
high-profile client (by flying into heavy fog and a hillside for a
meaningless basketball game).

You can try to blame me all you want, but the obsession was Kobe's.
And it cost the lives of innocent adults and children.

My opinion was not emotional. It shows a lot more compassion
than the men in the cockpit, whose misplaced priorities caused
multiple deaths.

Blind worship of sports stars who do not exercise precaution in
a dangerous situation is what is bizarre. Not a sports fan who
comments on it by quoting an article by a professional writer.

 

[Hoop Head]

You didn't respond with a comment about the article I referenced.

Which stated specifically . . . the pilot's pressure to perform for a
high-profile client (by flying into heavy fog and a hillside for a
meaningless basketball game).

You can try to blame me all you want, but the obsession was Kobe's.
And it cost the lives of innocent adults and children.

My opinion was not emotional. It shows a lot more compassion
than the men in the cockpit, whose misplaced priorities caused
multiple deaths.

Blind worship of sports stars who do not exercise precaution in
a dangerous situation is what is bizarre. Not a sports fan who
comments on it by quoting an article by a professional writer.

I thought you were sorry for your comments disparaging the dead? I guess not since you returned for round 3 now.

Round 1 being last year when the accident happened
Round 2 being the anniversary of the accident
And round 3 being now, when you returned from your hiatus to do it some more.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You didn't respond with a comment about the article I referenced.

Which stated specifically . . . the pilot's pressure to perform for a
high-profile client (by flying into heavy fog and a hillside for a
meaningless basketball game).

You can try to blame me all you want, but the obsession was Kobe's.
And it cost the lives of innocent adults and children.

My opinion was not emotional. It shows a lot more compassion
than the men in the cockpit, whose misplaced priorities caused
multiple deaths.

Blind worship of sports stars who do not exercise precaution in
a dangerous situation is what is bizarre. Not a sports fan who
comments on it by quoting an article by a professional writer.

again, most of the people here (me included), HATED Kobe Bryant the player AND the person. Kobe Bryant wasn’t worshipped or ANYONE’s hero to 99% on this board.

The fact that a helicopter pilot feels pressure working for high profile people does not automatically condemn the high profile person for the employees completely reckless behavior. ANYONE who works for high profile people want to do their best. That doesn’t put the onus of responsibility in the client when the person they hired does their worst. And, there’s still literally NOTHING that says Kobe and the pilot conferred about doing something dangerous THAT DAY.

 

[JCSunsfan]

again, most of the people here (me included), HATED Kobe Bryant the player AND the person. Kobe Bryant wasn’t worshipped or ANYONE’s hero to 99% on this board.

The fact that a helicopter pilot feels pressure working for high profile people does not automatically condemn the high profile person for the employees completely reckless behavior. ANYONE who works for high profile people want to do their best. That doesn’t put the onus of responsibility in the client when the person they hired does their worst. And, there’s still literally NOTHING that says Kobe and the pilot conferred about doing something dangerous THAT DAY.

you’re just being a freaking horror show of a human being.

I was going to say exactly this (except for the last line). Thank you for saying it for me.

 

[Russ Smith]

is Vucevic going to get traded and if so where? I've always followed him way back when Nikola Dragovic at UCLA introduced Vucevic to coach Ben Howland, Ben passed on him didn't think Vucevic was good enough. he went to USC, and then became an NBA all star.

he's 30, the Magic aren't that good again, he's a very good scorer and rebounder, a reasonably good defender, could make a real impact on the right team.

Very surprised he's still there I actually thought he'd be traded in the offseason, in fact before Klay got hurt there were Warriors sites saying we should trade for Vucevic, use the draft pick and Wiggins to get him. Won't happen now and frankly the way Wiggins is playing I don't think they should trade him, but I am surprised nobody has put together a deal for Vucevic.

 

[Ronin]

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[gimpy]

Aw, com'on guys. Put this argument to rest, will ya? It's not going anywhere.