15 thoughts - free agency

[some dumb guy]

Definitely cancer. Thankful your wife overcame it.

Thank you and much appreciated...
Sometimes the emotions hit me

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Thank you and much appreciated...
Sometimes the emotions hit me

Of course and they should.

 

[Stout]

My hope is that he becomes a success. To each their own.

But to your mind, he won't be a failure no matter what. You're already making excuses for a disappointing FA approach. This is what Chopper and I are talking about.

 

[Zalixar]

Okay, but that is about expectations. Not hope. I think it is a bit strange to hope that the team fails even before the season has started.

It's more that Monti is already a bust, so let's not drag out this out longer than it needs to be and get someone else at the helm.

 

[Goldfield]

But to your mind, he won't be a failure no matter what. You're already making excuses for a disappointing FA approach. This is what Chopper and I are talking about.

I’ve been patient but I’m ready to see him win an offseason for once.

 

[Gandhi]

But to your mind, he won't be a failure no matter what. You're already making excuses for a disappointing FA approach. This is what Chopper and I are talking about.

It is too easy to say that if I don’t think he has been a complete, 100% failure, then I am making excuses for him and think he can do nothing wrong. I do think he could have drafted better, and I do think they should attack free agency tomorrow pretty aggressively, but I also think that the Cards are closer to being relevant than their record last season showed, and I think he is being financially handcuffed by Bidwill to an extent. Further, I think that he drafted players that stylistically fit exactly what Gannon and Petzing wanted, and that they are heavily at fault for not making it work. Both things can be true, and I don’t think it is as easy as to say that he is a major fiasco and should be run out of time.

Your and Chopper’s approach is a simplistic black-and-white “if you don’t win, you have screwed up everything”-fan thinking - which is completely fair, by the way. After all, it is a result-business. I just think there are more nuances to the team’s situation.

If the team still doesn’t perform well this season, he should absolutely be fired. Potentially even after the draft if he doesn’t manage to get a decent QB situation in place, and thus pretty much kills any hope of a better season this time. In my mind, that is what his job should lead to, and if it doesn't, then he shouldn't have the job. I have had hope before the last couple of seasons.

 

[Gandhi]

It's more that Monti is already a bust, so let's not drag out this out longer than it needs to be and get someone else at the helm.

That is giving up right now, long before any game is played. I don't understand that approach.

 

[kerouac9]

That is giving up right now, long before any game is played. I don't understand that approach.

My man we’ve won 15 games in 51 tries under Monti’s leadership.

 

[Stout]

That is giving up right now, long before any game is played. I don't understand that approach.

Bidwill gave up when he kept Monti and Rallis.

 

[Chopper0080]

That is giving up right now, long before any game is played. I don't understand that approach.

Monti is a bad GM. He has been bad at FA. He has been bad at the draft. He stated when he was hired he wanted to build the lines and has failed in achieving that goal. He said Kyler was the guy, and he failed with that. The first HC he hired has been fired. On top of all of that, the franchises has been one of the worst in the three years he has overseen it. That isn’t average, it is bad.

And when he only wins 5 games this year, what is the reason you would keep him? Because he couldn’t overcome the mess that he created?

 

[Chopper0080]

Maybe you think some miracle will occur in 2026 and it could, but the far more likely scenario is that this just is who Monti is as a GM. It’s very similar to keeping Kyler back in 2023. The hope was that he would be something different and he never was.

 

[Gandhi]

My man we’ve won 15 games in 51 tries under Monti’s leadership.

So?

 

[kerouac9]

So?

Seems like we’ve played some games to make some decisions on

 

[Gandhi]

And when he only wins 5 games this year, what is the reason you would keep him? Because he couldn’t overcome the mess that he created?

You didn't read what I wrote? Then it is difficult to discuss anything.

By the way, it seems a little naive to think that Ossenfort hired Gannon and LaFleur.

 

[Gandhi]

Maybe you think some miracle will occur in 2026 and it could, but the far more likely scenario is that this just is who Monti is as a GM.

That is very true. I just choose to hope for the best, while other choose to hope for the worst. Again, to each their own. Nobody say we need to support the team the same ways.

 

[kerouac9]

You didn't read what I wrote? Then it is difficult to discuss anything.

By the way, it seems a little naive to think that Ossenfort hired Gannon and LaFleur.

Yes why would anyone think the General Manager selected the head coach?

Also he’s probably not making all these failed draft picks or free agent misfires.

Monti picked Paris Johnson and Mike Wilson. He also signed Josh Sweat.

Everything else was Michael Bidwill meddling.

Obviously.

 

[Gandhi]

Seems like we’ve played some games to make some decisions on

Maybe, but that doesn't explain why you want the team to lose so that he can get fired? We are fans. We don't make the decisions. All we can do is to decide if we want to follow a team or not, and if you choose to do so, I just think it is strange to hope for misery. That's just me. Fortunately there is no right or wrong way.

 

[Gandhi]

Yes why would anyone think the General Manager selected the head coach?

I guess because Bidwill own the team. You should probably do a little research about what kind of person Bidwill is. Or just watch some of the introduction press conference from when Arians, Wilks or Kingsbury started, if you don't want to read. Or read about every single head coach-hire in the NFL to find out that it is literally always the team owner that make that final decision. It is in fact also the owner that fire the head coach.

 

[Stout]

That is very true. I just choose to hope for the best, while other choose to hope for the worst. Again, to each their own. Nobody say we need to support the team the same ways.

Who's hoping for the worst? Most folks are just married to the reality of the situation, and it's a bleak relationship, let me tell ya.

 

[Stout]

Maybe, but that doesn't explain why you want the team to lose so that he can get fired? We are fans. We don't make the decisions. All we can do is to decide if we want to follow a team or not, and if you choose to do so, I just think it is strange to hope for misery. That's just me. Fortunately there is no right or wrong way.

Dude, you are major league projecting. People are disagreeing with you and you're accusing them of wanting this team to lose. El wrongo.

 

[some dumb guy]

El wrongo.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's got to be a quip, query, snark or some sort of response to this...LOL

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Who's hoping for the worst? Most folks are just married to the reality of the situation, and it's a bleak relationship, let me tell ya.

For me I need 7 wins this year with the cards being competitive in most games…..or Monti can go…nice man and I know he works hard but I won’t feel sorry for him it’s not like he is gonna go hungry…. But I will wish him well….

 

[Gandhi]

Who's hoping for the worst? Most folks are just married to the reality of the situation, and it's a bleak relationship, let me tell ya.

"My boy hope for the season is Monti getting fired by the end of it."

That was the line from Chopper that I thought was weird. I don't know if you agreed or not, but it seems like at least K9 does agree. I just find that strange, but again, everyone is free to choose for themselves.

 

[Gandhi]

Dude, you are major league projecting. People are disagreeing with you and you're accusing them of wanting this team to lose. El wrongo.

I think you have forgotten - or ignore - what started this entire discussion. Chopper mentioned how he hopes that Ossenfort fails, and I don't understand that thinking. I mentioned that, and you and a couple of others started talking about expectations. I think that expectations and hope are two very different things.

 

[Stout]

For me I need 7 wins this year with the cards being competitive in most games…..or Monti can go…nice man and I know he works hard but I won’t feel sorry for him it’s not like he is gonna go hungry…. But I will wish him well….

Playoffs or bust. He's had more than enough time.