Texas Tech QB Brendan Sorsby in gambling rehab.

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I didn't see a full thread about this, feel free to delete this if there is.

It seems like Sorsby is going to have to enter the Supplemental Draft at this point, barring a lot of things going his way. Yes, we drafted Beck, but we have a holdout going on with Brissett, and will likely end up back in the early QB market next year anyways.

There's a lot of risk with suspensions and gambling, but we have a need, and could maybe get a discount on a premier player. Although, drafting two QBs in one offseason could limit our choices in the 2027 Draft.

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i dunno...didnt the skins draft cousins late after getting some flashy guy in the first?? it isnt unheard of to pull two QB's in the same year...though technically the second QB would be if we drafted a kid next april...

it all depends on how they see sorsby..if they see him as a guy who was going to be a top ten pick in 27,..then fire away...but if they are not certain...let the jets have him
 

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my question:

if Sorsby is such a highly rated QB - Why didnt he come out this last year?

dont tell me NIL. This was a QB light draft and he had an opportunity to be the 2nd QB drafted. First round money kills Texas Tech NIL money.
maybe he owed the local bookie and would have suffered serious consequences if he declared for the draft??


I dunno....too much TV
 

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So, I understand why my thread was deleted/merged, but can we maybe update the thread title or topic to point out more about what's going on?

I really don't understand the megathreads about players. Sorsby's gambling is a very old topic. Him being available in the supplemental draft is very different.
 

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Most state governments love gambling addicts. Lotteries have way worse odds than casinos and obviously more easily accessible.

It didn't seem like a big issue back in the 80s or early 90s in Virginia when the lottery first started. Scratch tickets were mainly a $1 and the top prize winnings were rather modest. It was more a novelty and just a fun activity. That didn't last long though. Now $20,$40, and even $50 scratch tickets exist. I imagine many of us have witnessed people in local gas stations throwing away their latest paycheck feverishly scratching away on a stack of tickets.

Gambling addiction via Sports betting is becoming an epidemic on many college campuses sadly. Situations like Sorsby will become more common.

Excellent take. You should post more.
 

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my question:

if Sorsby is such a highly rated QB - Why didnt he come out this last year?

dont tell me NIL. This was a QB light draft and he had an opportunity to be the 2nd QB drafted. First round money kills Texas Tech NIL money.

So, he was given 6 million a year at Texas Tech, which was the highest in college football. Late first past that he makes less
 
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IMO, he's undraftable.

I don't give him much credit for entering rehab because it certainly seems as though it was an effort to get ahead of what was already a big investigation behind the scenes. If this was even 10 years ago he'd be banned from entering the NFL already. Active players gambling on games in their league is something that cannot be tolerated.

He's been in college for like 6 years, go use your degree dude. Just try to keep away from insider trading.
 

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Why not ask the same of Dante Moore from Oregon? Realistically, he would have gone to the Jets at #2, or us at #3, unless he fell apart in the pre-draft process. NIL is a significant qualifier.

Sorsby's transfer was worth $5 million. Literally a record deal, the highest payout in what's a short NIL history.
yes, but looking at (lets say) the #15 pick in this draft: contract was for a $5.9mm signing bonus, $4.25mm in yr 1 -- ~$24mm fully guaranteed.

that beats the heck outta a one year deal for $6mm.

my assertion/ speculation is:

Sorsby and Moore were likely given late Rd 1 / Rd 2 grades by the NFL draft evaluation service and they concluded that another year in college would be needed to get into the top half of Rd 1.
 

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Maybe the most ignorant post ever.
Oh come on, for this place that is a very hi bar even if we exclude the loons and PR (not to mention the loons in PR)

I am sure there have been dumber posts, there must be
 

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Did you have documented family history showing a tendency to say alcoholism ?

It is pretty clear alcoholism is NOT a choice in most cases, with a lot of help some people can best it like one of my best friends. \he isn't cured but he wins the fight on a daily basis. Other addictions are likely the same.

Sure for some people it is an excuse but the addiction is a real thing for many people
 

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yes, but looking at (lets say) the #15 pick in this draft: contract was for a $5.9mm signing bonus, $4.25mm in yr 1 -- ~$24mm fully guaranteed.

that beats the heck outta a one year deal for $6mm.

my assertion/ speculation is:

Sorsby and Moore were likely given late Rd 1 / Rd 2 grades by the NFL draft evaluation service and they concluded that another year in college would be needed to get into the top half of Rd 1.
I covered this earlier in this thread.

"Off the top of my head, Matt Stafford, Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence were universally considered #1 overall pick basically from when they were in high school, yet the first year they were draft eligible they chose to go back to school anyway. Matt Leinart, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford, Justin Herbert, Marcus Mariota. There are tons of examples of players turning down the draft even though they are widely expected to be very high picks. Add to the equation that Sorsby had five million reasons to stay in college."

There are other reasons than money that decide if players stay in college or not.
 

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Why not ask the same of Dante Moore from Oregon? Realistically, he would have gone to the Jets at #2, or us at #3, unless he fell apart in the pre-draft process. NIL is a significant qualifier.

Sorsby's transfer was worth $5 million. Literally a record deal, the highest payout in what's a short NIL history.
Moore said that because of NIL, he can feel better about refining his game for another year before coming out.
 

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Moore said that because of NIL, he can feel better about refining his game for another year before coming out.
Could be a smart move for some guys.
You dont get a lot of chances in the league..and statistics show that total starts is a strong indicator...a guy could make worse decisions than getting enough experience to succeed at a $50mil per year job.
 

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I covered this earlier in this thread.

"Off the top of my head, Matt Stafford, Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence were universally considered #1 overall pick basically from when they were in high school, yet the first year they were draft eligible they chose to go back to school anyway. Matt Leinart, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford, Justin Herbert, Marcus Mariota. There are tons of examples of players turning down the draft even though they are widely expected to be very high picks. Add to the equation that Sorsby had five million reasons to stay in college."

There are other reasons than money that decide if players stay in college or not.
Yeah...as also covered earlier in this thread...they came back for their 3rd year, not their 5th.
 

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Moore said that because of NIL, he can feel better about refining his game for another year before coming out.
Yeah...before last season Dante Moore had 5 games with over 20 passing attempts. He had Mitch Trubisky's career experience arc after last year. It's not like he started two or three seasons and went back.
 

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Just reported a judge has granted his injunction and he is now eligible for the upcoming season.

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NCAA president Charlie Baker responds on Brendan Sorsby ruling:

There is no better example of why targeted intervention from Congress is necessary. When you have schools and deep-pocketed supporters willing to look the other way on the glaring integrity threat of betting on your own team - and judges whose rulings effectively strip away our ability to stop them - only Congress can equip the NCAA
to apply this common sense rule to everyone fairly and consistently. The Protect College Sports Act would empower the NCAA to enforce rules including the gambling restrictions - it's needed now more than ever.
 

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The corruption in the world these days is staggering - ANY betting should mean you never play another snap in college. There are players that have been banned for 2 bets not related to their sport! This guy made tons of bets on his own team. Just outrageous.
 
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