2025 Week 3 Snap Counts and Thoughts

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Leaders put the blame on themselves first. If you are choosing to throw to a WR the caliber of Zay Jones in a critical situation, you can't put it on the back shoulder where the defender has a chance to contest the catch. One player makes 45 mil and the other makes 4 (i think). The disparity is there for a reason.
Yup, totally put it in a bad spot for a professional wide receiver.

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Yup, totally put it in a bad spot for a professional wide receiver.

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I throw a lot of criticism Kyler’s way but a professional wide receiver needs to catch that ball, whether it’s a little high or not.

But we decided to do absolutely nothing on offense this off-season and we got what we paid for yesterday.
 

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Yup, totally put it in a bad spot for a professional wide receiver.

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I'm pretty sure a spot that doesn't allow the DB to get an arm in and body you is better.

Zay should catch it, but also that chance would be higher if Kyler placed the ball in front of him and more away from the DB.
 

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My notes mostly line up with Choppers.

Offense:
1. Josh Fryar came in mostly for Jumbo package 9 times, likely taking snaps that would have gone to TE Travis Vokolek who didn't play.
2. Trey Benson's workload doubled, obviously due to Conner's injury, but it was trending to a larger role for this week regardless. Injury opened up Demercado for additional touches, mostly to spell Benson towards end of the game.
3. Tip back to regular workload following missed game last week - no easing him back in.
4. MHJ usage down about 10% - suspect to let him get his head right after horrific drops. - led to additional plays for Michael Wilson.


Defense:
1. Rabbit played all but 1 snap. Unbelievable that the rebounded after last weeks injury.
2. Whatever DR's issues are, they haven't limited his usage. Remains consistent game to game. (Even I am starting to question if he'll ever put up "decent" numbers.)
3. Who the heck is Anthony Goodlow (8 snaps)? I seriously don't ever remember hearing his name before.
4. Davis-Gaither had his second consecutive material increase in usage this week. Now playing 80%. Not sure who's snaps he is taking. Is he in some sort of hybrid Nickle CB role?
5. Jordan Burch snaps continue to increase each week. Cards must like him. At current usage, he's about at the max that we allow guys to play in our rotation.

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Yup, totally put it in a bad spot for a professional wide receiver.

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The alternative perspective is out the ball in a place where the defender can't reach. The WR had leverage and then had to give it up because of the placement of the ball.

Ultimately, you can't say that Zay Jones sucks and then expect him to make a contested catch on the most pivotal play of the game.
 

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Jordan Burch snaps continue to increase each week. Cards must like him. At current usage, he's about at the max that we allow guys to play in our rotation.
Yup really interesting. I wonder how much was dictated by packages and situations. For all those snaps I don’t recall hearing his name much. One tackle.
 
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Yup really interesting. I wonder how much was dictated by packages and situations. For all those snaps I don’t recall hearing his name much. One tackle.
Depending on which EDGE, he may have been going against Trent Williams all day.
 

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Yup, totally put it in a bad spot for a professional wide receiver.

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A) he should’ve caught it
B) if you watch the play in video you see jones beat his man. How did that corner end up physically attached to jones as he high pointed it? (Hint: Murray didn’t lead him well).
 

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A) he should’ve caught it
B) if you watch the play in video you see jones beat his man. How did that corner end up physically attached to jones as he high pointed it? (Hint: Murray didn’t lead him well).

I just watched the replay about five times. Jones didn't really have to slow down at all to make the catch at all. A tiny bit at most, but Murray still hit him in in stride.

The DB was able to close on him some after Jones came out of his break, and the throw could have been about a foot more to right of the QB, but it was still a great throw though.

The DB did not get a hand on the ball.

The sad part from the replay was watching Big Play Trey and a couple of other Cardinals start to celebrate when they saw Jones get two hands on it and pull it to his body.
 

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Leaders put the blame on themselves first. If you are choosing to throw to a WR the caliber of Zay Jones in a critical situation, you can't put it on the back shoulder where the defender has a chance to contest the catch. One player makes 45 mil and the other makes 4 (i think). The disparity is there for a reason.

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Thoughts and feelings post "it was on his back shoulder".

If you can't come down with this ball you don't belong in the league. Sadly our GM thinks Jones is still NFL quality.
 
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I just watched the replay about five times. Jones didn't really have to slow down at all to make the catch at all. A tiny bit at most, but Murray still hit him in in stride.

The DB was able to close on him some after Jones came out of his break, and the throw could have been about a foot more to right of the QB, but it was still a great throw though.

The DB did not get a hand on the ball.

The sad part from the replay was watching Big Play Trey and a couple of other Cardinals start to celebrate when they saw Jones get two hands on it and pull it to his body.
Sorry man, I’m calling you out here. That’s some bad faith statements on your part. He absolutely had to slow down. I appreciate your zeal in defending Kyler. Don’t lose your integrity to do so.
 

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Sorry man, I’m calling you out here. That’s some bad faith statements on your part. He absolutely had to slow down. I appreciate your zeal in defending Kyler. Don’t lose your integrity to do so.

I said he had to slow down a little, but only very marginally.

Here's the replay (the 2nd replay is the best angle). It's a little hard to tell, because Jones goes out of the picture just a little while the ball is in the air, but when he comes back into the frame, he's still moving across the field at about the same speed.

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The DB was closing on him very quickly so maybe that's what you're seeing.

Also, I'm disappointed that you resulted to slandering me, and I think you owe me an apology.
 
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I said he had to slow down a little, but only very marginally.

Here's the replay (the 2nd replay is the best angle). It's a little hard to tell, because Jones goes out of the picture just a little while the ball is in the air, but when he comes back into the frame, he's still moving across the field at about the same speed.

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The DB was closing on him very quickly so maybe that's what you're seeing.

Also, I'm disappointed that you resulted to slandering me. Shameful.
That’s a bad angle. The one from the QB’s view very clearly shows him slow to catch the pass. You can keep debating this, but you’re just wrong here buddy.

Again, it wasn’t a disastrous throw and jones should 100% catch it. But it’s just continued confirmation that Kyler doesn’t throw with precision.
 

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That’s a bad angle. The one from the QB’s view very clearly shows him slow to catch the pass. You can keep debating this, but you’re just wrong here buddy.

Again, it wasn’t a disastrous throw and jones should 100% catch it. But it’s just continued confirmation that Kyler doesn’t throw with precision.

Nevertheless, I think those replays support my assertions well beyond the point of "bad faith" statements lacking in integrity OZC.

And I find your previous statements both impolite and offensive.
 

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Nevertheless, I think those replays support my assertions well beyond the point of "bad faith" statements lacking in integrity OZC.

And I find your previous statements both impolite and offensive.
I have NFL + and watched the replay several times. At no point watching that play should it occur to anyone, “huh, that was a bad pass.” We’re grasping for straws.
 

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Nevertheless, I think those replays support my assertions well beyond the point of "bad faith" statements lacking in integrity OZC.

And I find your previous statements both impolite and offensive.
I apologize for using harsh language. But I can’t help but characterize your comments as being driven by heavily biased, and thus less than dependable, opinion.
 
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I have NFL + and watched the replay several times. At no point watching that play should it occur to anyone, “huh, that was a bad pass.” We’re grasping for straws.
No one is saying “bad” pass. Imprecise doesn’t mean bad. It means exactly what imprecise means . . . lacking precision.
 

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I apologize for using harsh language. But I can’t help but characterize your comments as being driven by heavily biased, and thus less than dependable, opinion.

Wholly insufficient.

And how dare you attack my character over something so trivial? It's truly disgusting.

You're going on ignore OZC.
 

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Wholly insufficient.

And how dare you attack my character over something so trivial? It's truly disgusting.

You're going on ignore OZC.
It wasn’t meant on your general character. I believe you to be a pretty solid guy. I just think you’re so clouded in regard to Kyler that you don’t even know when you’re bending the facts.
 
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