OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

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are we mcbriding wilson again? first year he got dobbsed - last year he shared the field with the best tight end and the (non qb) #1 draft pick- if wilson doesn't do anything this year than so be it but he's still an unknown quantity rn
McBride had Ertz in front of him… and I’d argue that Kliffys offense wasn’t exactly TE friendly
 

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Ertz had 91 targets and seven TDs with Kliff last season; he had 81 targets in 11 games with Kliff in 2022.

There just weren’t targets for 2 TEs, which is the problem Reiman faces, also.

meanwhile reiman's serving pancakes akuna matata style - cashing checks and breaking necks
 

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Ertz had 91 targets and seven TDs with Kliff last season; he had 81 targets in 11 games with Kliff in 2022.

There just weren’t targets for 2 TEs, which is the problem Reiman faces, also.
He didn’t have that prolific year while in AZ. He had OK stats in his time to AZ, but more so of a product of no one to throw to w Hopkins injury and suspension.
 

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I think everyone will play out of the slot at times, but I hope we move Charmin there primarily and keep Wilson as a Y receiver.

I don’t see any need to optimize the offense for Michael Wilson. I think he maxes out as a 750-yard, 6 TD kinda dude. That’ll get him $12 million a year when he reaches free agency tho.
I wouldnt mind playing in the slot some this year myself
 

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should we trade kyler about halfway thru the season when he and his stats are awesome sauce
using the "sell high buy low" philosophy this strategy seems to be the one that affords us the best opportunity to gain maximum compensation from any such movement of kyler Murray.
I still contend that Dallas is the most likely trade partner. Jerry Jones is a walking advertisement for senility medications.
 

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using the "sell high buy low" philosophy this strategy seems to be the one that affords us the best opportunity to gain maximum compensation from any such movement of kyler Murray.
I still contend that Dallas is the most likely trade partner. Jerry Jones is a walking advertisement for senility medications.

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He didn’t have that prolific year while in AZ. He had OK stats in his time to AZ, but more so of a product of no one to throw to w Hopkins injury and suspension.
Why did he flourish when he left? He appeared to be a rotting corpse here, as old as he was. Kliffy coached him then and now. What could the difference be?
 

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Why did he flourish when he left? He appeared to be a rotting corpse here, as old as he was. Kliffy coached him then and now. What could the difference be?
Well I think Kliffys scheme is quite different than when he was here. He realized you weren’t going to outpace an NFL defense like you could in college. I watched a lot of skins, bubble screens were limited. Route trees were more creative, some movement actually existed.

Perhaps Kliffy learned something when he got fired?!?!? I know it’s crazy
 

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Why did he flourish when he left? He appeared to be a rotting corpse here, as old as he was. Kliffy coached him then and now. What could the difference be?
Maybe he decided he ain't really ready to retire after all.
When he was here he just caught the ball and fell down.
 

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Are you sure? You literally do not talk about anybody else that’s currently on the team. Players, coaches, etc. I’d be liable to think you’re only here for Kyler.
Idiotic take if you have any knowledge of BIM. Just horrid
 

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Well I think Kliffys scheme is quite different than when he was here. He realized you weren’t going to outpace an NFL defense like you could in college. I watched a lot of skins, bubble screens were limited. Route trees were more creative, some movement actually existed.

Perhaps Kliffy learned something when he got fired?!?!? I know it’s crazy

I mean, have you considered he threw more screens here and less screens at the Commanders exactly because of the QB?

Or that they didn't have the players for it and that's why they brought in Deebo?
 

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Idiotic take if you have any knowledge of BIM. Just horrid
Incredibly ironic that you came to his rescue because you do the same thing. I rightfully called you out on it so many times that I thought you put me on ignore.
 

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Incredibly ironic that you came to his rescue because you do the same thing. I rightfully called you out on it so many times that I thought you put me on ignore.

I've no idea why you think you should be policing what other people say and "calling people out" on things at all, never mind repeatedly.
 
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