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Because he didn't play on Saturday, experts are saying that Stills is a lock.
2025 Cardinals Preseason Thread
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something I didnt know and new for 2025:
on the final cutdown day -- teams can have 2 players on Injured Reserve that can be brought back to the regular roster after the first 4 weeks of the season.
so for our purposes: its final 53 + 2 IR players who can play after 4 weeks
curious if Nolen / Nichols / Jones / Ojulari are candidates for the 2 spots
after those two -- if a player is on IR on final cutdown day, they are lost for the season
on the final cutdown day -- teams can have 2 players on Injured Reserve that can be brought back to the regular roster after the first 4 weeks of the season.
so for our purposes: its final 53 + 2 IR players who can play after 4 weeks
curious if Nolen / Nichols / Jones / Ojulari are candidates for the 2 spots
after those two -- if a player is on IR on final cutdown day, they are lost for the season
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562 vs. 135 total yards...that's just pathetic. Yes, it's preseason, but the Broncos roster depth is clearly far better than ours.
Not a big Sean Payton fan, but he is apparently a really good coach.
Not a big Sean Payton fan, but he is apparently a really good coach.
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All of these "build up the underbelly" moves by Monti, and we still have no underbelly.
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Nolen can be carried on PUP into the regular season without taking up a roster spot. So can Nichols.
Beej, Nolen, and Nichols can all be carried on PUP without using the IR slot, AFAIK.
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Beej, man. Keep forgetting he even exists.
Chopper0080
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CC, Dalvin, and Collier are all over 29. CC says this is likely his last year and Collier is on a one year deal. The only "young players" are Stills, Robinson, and Nolen who is on PUP. None of them are impacted by Nichols or Jones unless Nichols and Jones are out performing them.
Some of this is putting the cart WAY before the horse. Nolen is on PUP. Nichols is on PUP. So you can keep 6 with Robinson, CC, Dalvin, Stills, Collier and Jones. When either Nolen or Nichols are ready to come off PUP, cross that bridge at that time. Personally, it depends on what the roster looks like at that time, but there are probably 1 or 2 players who will make the final 53 that are inferior to Jones and/or Nichols.
Bilal had an undisclosed neck issue that has him still out 10.5 months later. I'm guessing if it's that major, he could miss this year too. We'll probably see an injury settlement soon. I didn't realize it was a neck issue
Chopper0080
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I am going to defend AZ a bit here.
Cardinals had 7 points with their veteran backup QB in two series. Zero with their going to be cut 5th round pick over the remaining 8.
Denver had 24 points with their veteran backup QB in six series. Three with their rookie QB over the remaining 5.
So, yes, Denver played their backup QB over an entire half and scored 24 points against a defense where maybe 10 of those players will make the roster and of those 10, most are very young. AZ chose to play it's backup QB two series. Our offense sucked because the QB who played 80% of the game sucked. Our defense sucked because it was made up of a bunch of players who are in their first two seasons.
You can blame AZ for hanging on to Tune despite him being terrible and has not developed. But that is also why they signed Brissett and why Tune won't make the roster. You can blame AZ for not playing Brissett more because it hurt the play of other offensive players but AZ obviously prefers to keep Brissett healthy.
Chopper0080
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It just seemed like a game of two different approaches. One major takeaway is that Tune is awful, and the Cardinals would be better served having a better 3rd QB moving forward.
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It probably is superior - but I think you are vastly underestimating how much of that performance can trace back to one player - Clayton Tune. He sucks so bad we could get nothing going on offense and kept our D constantly on the field.
Not saying I was pleased with any of the team, I wasn't - but at least when Brisett was out there we scored a touchdown.
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Also, one thing to keep in mind. The better offensive coaches in the league Payton, Shanahan, McVay, and O'Conner, Harbaugh and Reid all have a vet backup QB and then another vet or multiple QBs on the roster for TC. They all seem to put a higher priority on having multiple QBs in TC and the preseason vs what AZ has done.
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this was my impression
for the Cards the approach was: a little run for 2nd string, then an extended look at the bubble players
for the Broncos: extended run for the 2nd string, then a little (longer) run for the bubble players
The Cards knew pregame what they have in Tune -- its why they went and got Brisset this offseason.
And so it was about who was going to play QB while you see what Josh Fyrar looks like at LT.
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He's lucky that he has 2nd round capital associated with him or he would be at risk of being on the outside looking in next week. As the saying goes the #1 ability is availability.
didn't deserve it's own thread but damn
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Nah. Those pup slots are free.
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Know it's an old saying but, "Misery loves company", so I feel better after the Buffalo-Chicago game.
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I kept thinking this and then reminding myself that most of the guys in the field for the Cardinals will NEVER see the field except for maybe special teams. If we had injuries or were rotational positions these guys won’t likely see the field. That “belly” is really referring to second stringers imo. And we didn’t see them other than Brisset and demercado.
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i think the fear is the "second stringers", like Nolan/BJ look like question marks whether they can be any kind of impact players this year, especially BJ. That signifcantly weakens our depth up front. And after injuries to Starling and Bunting, our corner depth is zero and even two of our starters, Melton and Johnson, are question marks. And outside of Sweat, our LBers are pretty meh, at best.
But the Nolan/BJ stuff is the biggest reason why i fear this D isn't going to be what I hoped it would. A very good/great D-line/edge group makes every piece of the defense behind them better and I was expecting at least Nolan to provide some needed beef/push to help with the rotation. Missing all of camp will at least set him back a bit in the regular season and the longer he's out, the more I worry about another Robinson scenario. Not to mention I saw next to nothing out of Robinson last season when he did finally play and he was a ghost out there in preseason. My hope was strength in numbers and that at least 1 of those 3 guys could be a really solid contributor if not an impact maker and jury’s really out on all of them for one reason or another.
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Looked just like saints jaguars game.
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Genuinely wonder if he tore his PCL & MCL, too. Every person’s body is different, but damn man it’s been a year. Unless he had to wait like 3+ months to get surgery, I don’t understand.
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It’s a definite head scratcher.
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Might happen after the final cut. And we add a vet to the PS.
Arizona Cardinals rookie OL Hayden Conner to "miss some time" with knee injury
Conner hurt his knee three plays into the Cardinals' preseason loss to the Broncos on Saturday.
cardswire.usatoday.com
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