Cardinals at Broncos PS G2 gameday thread 8-16-25

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Green (6'4") 15 game
Hopkins (6'1") 9 games
Cooper (5'11") 5 games
Brown (5'9") 12 games
Isabella (5'9") 3 games
Dortch (5'7") 16 games
Moore (5'7") 8 games

While our WR room is still missing a legit #2, it is still a room of giants compared to 2022. That was out group going in to the season. Dortch has been the exception to staying healthy with these smaller guys. And Green was actually healthy, but had the 8th highest yards on the team and got 23% of his yards on a single play that year!

The WR room is completely overhauled now, so if that glaring hole at #2 bites us, MO needs to take major heat. I am intrigued by Fehoko and Weaver to see how they will be used and if either can help open up the passing offense just a tiny bit more than last season.
They will be used in exactly the same way Zach Pascal and Chris Moore were used in this same offense.
 

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Green (6'4") 15 game
Hopkins (6'1") 9 games
Cooper (5'11") 5 games
Brown (5'9") 12 games
Isabella (5'9") 3 games
Dortch (5'7") 16 games
Moore (5'7") 8 games

While our WR room is still missing a legit #2, it is still a room of giants compared to 2022. That was out group going in to the season. Dortch has been the exception to staying healthy with these smaller guys. And Green was actually healthy, but had the 8th highest yards on the team and got 23% of his yards on a single play that year!

The WR room is completely overhauled now, so if that glaring hole at #2 bites us, MO needs to take major heat. I am intrigued by Fehoko and Weaver to see how they will be used and if either can help open up the passing offense just a tiny bit more than last season.

If the cards are in contention near the trade deadline, they will get the #2 receiver. We see 2-3 guys move every year.
 

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If the cards are in contention near the trade deadline, they will get the #2 receiver. We see 2-3 guys move every year.
Who? And based on how long it takes Kyler to get on the same page with any wideout, why would you even do that?

If the Cards are in contention, they probably dont need a #2 WR/third or fourth passing option.

Lot of eggs in the Zay Jones basket in 2025.
 

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why'd we pay him so damn early in the offseason
I low-key think that was one of Monti’s best moves as Cardinals GM. $2.3 million for one year deal was probably 20% of the market price for similar players at the position.

Hopefully Kyler vibes with him or he can at least hold down the X receiver role in 11 personnel.
 

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I low-key think that was one of Monti’s best moves as Cardinals GM. $2.3 million for one year deal was probably 20% of the market price for similar players at the position.

Hopefully Kyler vibes with him or he can at least hold down the X receiver role in 11 personnel.
hope you're right - cost was great - word is he already took dortch's spot
 

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Green (6'4") 15 game
Hopkins (6'1") 9 games
Cooper (5'11") 5 games
Brown (5'9") 12 games
Isabella (5'9") 3 games
Dortch (5'7") 16 games
Moore (5'7") 8 games

While our WR room is still missing a legit #2, it is still a room of giants compared to 2022. That was out group going in to the season. Dortch has been the exception to staying healthy with these smaller guys. And Green was actually healthy, but had the 8th highest yards on the team and got 23% of his yards on a single play that year!

The WR room is completely overhauled now, so if that glaring hole at #2 bites us, MO needs to take major heat. I am intrigued by Fehoko and Weaver to see how they will be used and if either can help open up the passing offense just a tiny bit more than last season.
Baltimore steady makes the playoffs with one WR threat,...and a TE that is less than ours.

But I really would like to see us get an Alec Pierce type guy for 2 or 3...6'4.... 4.3.... a threat on every play.
Those guys are hard to find though.
 

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Dortch’s chemistry with Kyler and return ability makes him extremely difficult to push off the roster, IMO.
but Weaver has been out there returning kicks...and doing it without the fumbles...and while being 6" taller...and faster
 

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Who? And based on how long it takes Kyler to get on the same page with any wideout, why would you even do that?

If the Cards are in contention, they probably dont need a #2 WR/third or fourth passing option.

Lot of eggs in the Zay Jones basket in 2025.

The who would depend on which teams are struggling.
 

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The who would depend on which teams are struggling.
Rumor has it... Miami and Tyreke the Freak still aint really on the same page...
normally I would be an automatic no thanks on Tyreke... but he has one particular skill he could teach all our guys... YAC...dude gets free of the first defender damn near every catch and wiggles for more yards... Mike Wilson would be way more dangerous if he just learned that skill...as would Marv....and in the meantime Hill provides speed, deep threat, and explosive plays.
I think our roster and culture are strong enough now where we could take a chance on a guy like that for a season or two....and with his age, the trade comp probably would not be real high...3rd and a 5th or something....ooooooo...or a third and Greg Dortch!!
 

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Baltimore steady makes the playoffs with one WR threat,...and a TE that is less than ours.

But I really would like to see us get an Alec Pierce type guy for 2 or 3...6'4.... 4.3.... a threat on every play.
Those guys are hard to find though.
Baltimore also has a perennial MVP candidate at QB.
 

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This is the thing people seem to forget true legit MVP caliber quarterbacks make the whole team better including lesser receiving corps
I agree with this. However....I have also seen the Petzing call a game.
I would bet money that if Mike Wilson went to the Niners he would post 50% more yardage than he does here.
some of it is on the QB for not wanting to throw on time. But a lot of it is a stifled route tree that isnt designed to get the guy in space.
we saw a big improvement from Marv with just the minor adjustment of having him run square ins and crossers...Mike Wilson seems to be contained outside the hashmarks on every play..hard to get open that way if you aint a burner...dudes need to cut in once in a while...otherwise your double moves dont work.
 
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