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if we can get kuminga without giving up any of our youth (minus oso) we might just compete with our record last year - while still developing- dead serious
If we can get Kuminga giving up some combo of Oso, ONeale, Grayson, and Richard's I am ok with it. But I would not have exceptionally high hopes. There would not be enough balls on court for Kuminga, Green, and Kuminga to play together.
 

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If we can get Kuminga giving up some combo of Oso, ONeale, Grayson, and Richard's I am ok with it. But I would not have exceptionally high hopes. There would not be enough balls on court for Kuminga, Green, and Kuminga to play together.
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If we can get Kuminga giving up some combo of Oso, ONeale, Grayson, and Richard's I am ok with it. But I would not have exceptionally high hopes. There would not be enough balls on court for Kuminga, Green, and Kuminga to play together.
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I think it would be something like Royce and Fleming. At least that’s my bare minimum asking price if I’m GS. They have the same amount of overstocked guards that we do.
 

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I like Dunn as much as the next guy but he shouldn’t be seen as untradeable . Kuminga is the same age and is probably close to what we hope Dunn becomes.
Why are GS not locking him up? Questions about BB IQ or attitude. Dunn does not have that. We need players with everything. Size, speed, IQ, skills, motor, attitude.
 

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Forget giving up young guys, I wouldn’t want to be the team giving Kuminga 20-30million a year, period.

He’s not a bad player, but he shows no sign of having high potential. Over four years he’s not gotten any better at anything. In fact you can argue he’s gotten worse. Guys with star trajectories don’t run on the treadmill for four years.
 
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Forget giving up young guys, I wouldn’t want to be the team giving Kuminga 20-30million a year, period.

He’s not a bad player, but he shows no sign of having high potential. Over four years he’s not gotten any better at anything. In fact you can argue he’s gotten worse. Guys with star directories don’t run on the treadmill for four years.

And we kind of have the same situation going for Green, i'm all for taking a flyer on player in that range but having two contracts like that, nope.
 
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Why are GS not locking him up? Questions about BB IQ or attitude. Dunn does not have that. We need players with everything. Size, speed, IQ, skills, motor, attitude.

I understand the Warriors are offering a lesser contract than what Kuminga wants.
 

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And we kind of have the same situation going for Green, i'm all for taking a flyer on player in that range but having two contracts like that, nope.

If we could unload Green for anything of value, I would be all over it. IMO, he's Kelly Oubre part 2. Exciting but more likely to have a negative impact than a positive one, a volume shooter who doesn't shoot well and provides nothing else.
 
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I don’t think his upside is tremendous but Suns fans say that about every young player. I do agree that Kuminga isn’t the caliber of player to be giving up assets for.

We do not know how good Fleming can be, but he has excellent measurements, athleticism, skills and he can hit the outside shot.

That's a lot going for a rookie big man.
 
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The Warriors reportedly want a first round pick, a good prospect and no bad contracts for Kuminga.

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And we kind of have the same situation going for Green, i'm all for taking a flyer on player in that range but having two contracts like that, nope.
And even Green has at least marginally improved every season. Kuminga had arguably his worst season in this past season.
 

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The Warriors reportedly want a first round pick, a good prospect and no bad contracts for Kuminga.

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I am disappointed that we are even in the conversation.

What is Kuminga GOOD at? In what tangible way is he an impactful player?

He doesn't shoot well, he's particularly poor from the outside and at the line, he is a really poor passer, he is a mediocre rebounder, he isn't much of a defender and over 4 years he has shown zero meaningful growth as a player.

And the Kings being the competition for his services... another franchise that has made one idiotic move after another the last several years.
 

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There is nothing about Ben Simmons that would make sense for us. If our goal is to get our culture back in the right direction he would be probably the worst player in the NBA to add to the locker room.

I honestly don't think he likes playing basketball... he enjoys being famous, but he is as uncompetitive as any player I can ever recall, I don't think he gives a rats ass about winning, so much so that I think he'd rather sit out with any excuse imaginable than be on the court in meaningful moments.
 

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I don’t think his upside is tremendous but Suns fans say that about every young player. I do agree that Kuminga isn’t the caliber of player to be giving up assets for.
We need to develop, train, and play him. Is he the second coming of Kawai? His size is fantastic, he has a good looking shot, and a reputation of willingness to learn. Beyond stupid to trade Fleming for Kuminga, who has 4 years with little to show for it in terms of progress. Did we learn nothing from Camara? He was here yesterday it seems. I know there are new guys in the F.O. They might not know Suns history or have much NBA experience...
 
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I think it would be something like Royce and Fleming. At least that’s my bare minimum asking price if I’m GS. They have the same amount of overstocked guards that we do.
I think that they would have interest Royce.
 
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