Guys starting week 17 in the NFL this year, or week one starters?
3-5 year rebuilds in the NFL are supremely stupid, as it is a league literally built for parity and swift rebuilds.
When can you give him a complete grade? Year 7, 10? The excuse making is insane. He's been in the league 5 years now and we still can't evaluate him? How about when a player tells you who he is (or isn't), then maybe believe him?
It took Peyton Manning 6 years to get a playoff win and he had some really complete teams to work with.
Damn dude, anytime someone isn’t completely stepping on Kyler’s grave, you’re going after them lmao
Yeah, I know. I wanted him to show some kind of real spark because we truly need to know if he's the guy or not. I haven't seen it from him so I've made up my mind. I mean, I think we are kind of stuck in the keep him another year and then move on, but for me, it'll be another wasted year because of him.
Dobbs lead us to a big win over Dallas.( DUCKS!)
Kyler is one of the very qbs that can make a dump off unhinged.
I think Purdy still has to perform. Not quite 1 or 2. There's been guys in great positions who could not pull it off. I think he's not transcendent, but is better than Jimmy G so he looks like a super QB when dropped into that team. I think he's better than people think in order to take advantage of that opportunity. He's a solid QB.
I think it's perfectly fair to consider the Keim/Kliff years a wash. If I had my druthers, I'd add some weapons like MHJ this offseason and see how he looks. If next year is more of the same, you move on.
That's all I'm saying.
Feels like Ayton to a degree. We see flashes where Murray does stuff few QBs can do. Consistency is where the the greats kill you. You know they are going to score on drives to win the game, two minute before the half scores, etc. For a play Kyler can look amazing. Can he string a bunch of those plays together on a drive? Then do it in a game for multiple drives? There were a LOT of drops yesterday. IDK. Kyler has the talent. I don't know if it's him or the crappy WRs for the reason there's no consistency.
Ummm I’m pretty sure Mahomes still won a SB and looked pretty good last season with about the same supporting cast?
That’s fair, but I feel like the org is giving him a Mulligan with the new coaching staff, so just considering this year.
Exactly. Did that mean that Stafford wasn’t “the guy”? Of course not. Once he was shipped out of Detroit, he obviously was. Can you imagine how good Stafford would be had he played for the Lions after Campbell turned the franchise around? If Murray goes to a team that has any clue, we will rue the day.
IDK. He's a proven commodity that seemingly can turn it on at any point in a game or season. I know I am tired of watching him do that to the Chargers.
Question. Do you feel like there is no chance with an offseason to work on how to operate this offense plus with some legit weapons he can show that spark. Or you feel like there is no hope?
So Kyler was blameless in those years? Ah, no.
I feel like every time someone criticizes Kyler someone else excuses him and says to give him just one more shot. I don't want a QB who still needs to put it together heading into year 6.
Long-term? Guaranteed? So if we keep him 3 years, what kind of progress do we have by then?
I didn’t. I called for Warner to be QB1 as early as 2007 & that Rosen should be discarded in order to draft Murray. Murray was better than Rosen while he was still at OU. There’s no one at the college level better than Murray.
