Can This Roster Be Playoff Level in a Year?

[CT CARDSFAN]

My offseason program:
Free Agents: Conner Williams LOG 6'5" 312, 26yrs, 5 years @ $68,000,000/ $13.6per
I want a seasoned LG to be the OL leader.
Michael Davis, CB, 6'2" 195, 28yrs, 4 years @ $36,000,000/$9.0per
Christian Wilkins, DT, 6'4", 310, 28yrs, 4 years @ $80,000,000/$20per
Draft Before Trading Out of 1st pick:
#1 Olu Fashanu, Best pass pro blocking OT in the draft, have to protect Murray.
#1 Rome Odunze, WR, A Bolden with speed and great hands.
#2 Cooper DeJean, S/CB Would be a starting safety with CB instincts and experience.
#3 Mekhi Wingo, DT, Good Penetrator
#3 Dontay Corleone, DT
#3 Christian Mahogany, OG
#4 Raheim Sanders, RB
#4 Max Melton, CB
Trade or release DJ Humphries and Zack Ertz.

 

[kerouac9]

Agree to an extent but also disagree on Kyler.

This team can't pay Kyler's contract and try to build a roster around him (currently void of talent) if he isn't playing like a franchise QB.

Kyler has to be VERY good or this doesn't work and you need to draft a QB and start over.

We're not "void of talent." We are not going into the 2024 offseason with Kyler + nothing.

Above average players - Conner, McBride, (Wilson), (PJJ)
Above replacement-level players - Rondale Moore, the Captain, Froholdt, Hernandez

That's a starting offense. The best argument for building the offense this offseason is that it's maybe closer to being an above-average unit with a couple high-profile pieces. That's really the assumption that we have to proof out.

The defense is extremely bad, and almost completely bereft of above-average players at impact positions and replacement-level players anywhere else.

 

[DVontel]

This team can't pay Kyler's contract and try to build a roster around him (currently void of talent) if he isn't playing like a franchise QB.

This just seems like you have very low expectations on Monti to build a competent roster. He absolutely can. I assume that’s what he was hired for.

 

[kerouac9]

This just seems like you have very low expectations on Monti to build a competent roster. He absolutely can. I assume that’s what he was hired for.

The entire league is designed to have every team finish 9-8 or 8-9. Monti worked hard to build our roster that will finish 4-13. Inertia alone -- benign neglect -- would buoy us up to 7-10 next season even if Kyler is, like, Gardner Minshew or Derek Carr.

You have to work really hard to be as bad as we're being this season.

 

[Stout]

This just seems like you have very low expectations on Monti to build a competent roster. He absolutely can. I assume that’s what he was hired for.

We as fans have no idea if this will turn out to be true.

 

[football karma]

the Eagles went from 4-11-1 to 9-8 in a season, making the playoffs

2021 Philadelphia Eagles season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

they didnt sign a single high priced FA -- but signed many "average" players to 1 year deals

their draft was good -- DeVonta Smith, WR Alabama (who was good as a rookie) , Landon Dickerson became a starting guard for them in the middle of the season --- but not spectacular

 

[TRW]

This time next year? I hope to be around .500 or a couple games above it with dreams of a wildcard

I just hope I'm alive this time next year As to the Cardinals, I don't have a clue as to what they will look like then (my flux capacitor is on the blink). They have so many things to fix (and they ARE the Cardinals) I have to keep my Darksider lenses on. I will be rejoicing if your hope becomes a reality next season.

 

[TheCardFan]

This just seems like you have very low expectations on Monti to build a competent roster. He absolutely can. I assume that’s what he was hired for.

You missed the point.

 

[TheCardFan]

We're not "void of talent." We are not going into the 2024 offseason with Kyler + nothing.

The defense is extremely bad, and almost completely bereft of above-average players at impact positions and replacement-level players anywhere else.

We don't even know if we have "Kyler".

 

[kerouac9]

the Eagles went from 4-11-1 to 9-8 in a season, making the playoffs

2021 Philadelphia Eagles season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

they didnt sign a single high priced FA -- but signed many "average" players to 1 year deals

their draft was good -- DeVonta Smith, WR Alabama (who was good as a rookie) , Landon Dickerson became a starting guard for them in the middle of the season --- but not spectacular

So all we have to do is match the performance of one of the best and most experienced front offices in the NFL, who had a roster the core of which played in the Super Bowl four years before and was in the playoffs the year prior to the 4-win season?

 

[Stout]

the Eagles went from 4-11-1 to 9-8 in a season, making the playoffs

2021 Philadelphia Eagles season - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

they didnt sign a single high priced FA -- but signed many "average" players to 1 year deals

their draft was good -- DeVonta Smith, WR Alabama (who was good as a rookie) , Landon Dickerson became a starting guard for them in the middle of the season --- but not spectacular

Comparing our situation to that of the Eagles is comparing apples to math.

 

[football karma]

So all we have to do is match the performance of one of the best and most experienced front offices in the NFL, who had a roster the core of which played in the Super Bowl four years before and was in the playoffs the year prior to the 4-win season?

the Eagles had a grand total of ......... 3 starters and Dallas Goedert left from that SB team by 2021

Kelce, Lane Johnson, Fletcher Cox -- three really good players no doubt -- but that wasnt a solid 2020 roster held back by Carson Wentz

 

[kerouac9]

the Eagles had a grand total of ......... 3 starters and Dallas Goedert left from that SB team by 2021

Kelce, Lane Johnson, Fletcher Cox -- three really good players no doubt -- but that wasnt a solid 2020 roster held back by Carson Wentz

How many of those players were on the 2019 playoff team? Or the 2018 playoff team?

 

[DVontel]

You missed the point.

No, I fully got the point. You just wanted me to agree with you.

It’s possible to create a talented team even with the limitations Kyler has. If you don’t agree, then you just have low expectations of Monti. Kyler possibly being bad does not & should not stop Monti from having good drafts or making good signings.

You have repeated “If Kyler” in multiple threads. We get it. Most valuable/impactful guy on the team, but he’s not the only guy on the team. Unlike Keim, Monti better not see it as such, either.

 

[DVontel]

We as fans have no idea if this will turn out to be true.

Okay, I predict that he can.

 

[football karma]

How many of those players were on the 2019 playoff team? Or the 2018 playoff team?

the same. Goedert was a starter though in 2019

 

[cardsfanmd]

Getting in the playoffs or being competitive in them?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Getting in the playoffs or being competitive in them?

I think year 2, it’s reasonable to expect getting in them or at least barely falling short.

Year 3 is when a team should really be ready to compete IN the playoffs, IMO.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

No

 

[oaken1]

Comparing our situation to that of the Eagles is comparing apples to math.

right. so if there are 216 apples to a bushel how many oranges get us a first down?

 

[Dback Jon]

Comparing our situation to that of the Eagles is comparing apples to math.

To make the playoffs we don't need Philadelphia level talent - just Viking level.

 

[Stout]

I think year 2, it’s reasonable to expect getting in them or at least barely falling short.

Year 3 is when a team should really be ready to compete IN the playoffs, IMO.

It is reasonable, yes, which is why I haven't been happy to see we haven't been setting up to really do so.

 

[Stout]

right. so if there are 216 apples to a bushel how many oranges get us a first down?

Moon.

 

[Stout]

To make the playoffs we don't need Philadelphia level talent - just Viking level.

I didn't realize we had Jefferson and Addison on our roster.

 

[Dback Jon]

I didn't realize we had Jefferson and Addison on our roster.

I’m talking the goal for next year