Let’s Take a Moment to Overreact to Kyler’s IG Page

[DVontel]

He’s just saying that to scare the Packers away from keeping him. I would rather have A-Aron for the next few years age/weirdness and all.

I would have easily but seeing him fold with arguably his best all-around team ever & a team with more significantly more talent than this team just doesn’t sit right with me.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

He’s just saying that to scare the Packers away from keeping him. I would rather have A-Aron for the next few years age/weirdness and all.

Kinda my thinking...3 years $150 million for Rodgers may be more productive than 5 years $200 million for Murray.

 

[SoonerLou]

I would have easily but seeing him fold with arguably his best all-around team ever & a team with more significantly more talent than this team just doesn’t sit right with me.

The reason for getting is Rodgers is

1. He can solve the Rams issue that Kliff seemingly cant.
2. Kliff can solve the 49ers issue that Rodgers seemingly cant.

Brady retired so we dont have to worry about that.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The reason for getting is Rodgers is

1. He can solve the Rams issue that Kliff seemingly cant.
2. Kliff can solve the 49ers issue that Rodgers seemingly cant.

Brady retired so we dont have to worry about that.

Unless Brady is a Niner.

 

[GatorAZ]

I would have easily but seeing him fold with arguably his best all-around team ever & a team with more significantly more talent than this team just doesn’t sit right with me.

He chokes but I’d take a vet QB over a bunch of picks if it came to that. I don’t think this relationship between Kyler and the franchise ends well extension or not.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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[Brian in Mesa]

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[Stout]

Except that I am not. If we hope to get better in the playoffs and possibly the Superbowl, we need to accomplish what I said. Kyler's immaturity is not what is holding us from the being successful.

Dude, this is your statement, the statement I responded to:

"Cowboys did the exact same thing with Dak and it didn't work out for them. QB prices will keep going up exponentially.
Waiting isn't the best answer when it comes to QBs. If he is your QBoF, pay him, if not trade him. It should be that simple."

That' the ONLY thing I'm responding to. This simple scenario, pay him or trade him, is what I am addressing. Pay him or trade him, which you posted. Literally has nothing to do with our other problems that are holding us back from being successful. You get how you're moving the goal posts now? Sheesh.

 

[Stout]

Unless Brady is a Niner.

What are the Whiners trading to make that happen?

 

[BritCard]

Same song & dance.

Everyone here, repeatedly, has said in some form that Kyler has been acting like a jackass about this situation & has preached he folded down the stretch & needs to become a better leader. Repeatedly.

It’s only a select few that won’t or can’t come to realization that are other major problems around the organization. They get mad when that is pointed out due to not it being solely Kyler slander 24/7, even though everyone here has blamed Kyler’s play nonstop.

Credit to Keim. He has swindled those few.


Same song & dance.

BS.

Completely separate issues. Both things exist in isolation.

 

[BritCard]

Do you actually think that an agent going public with contract demands is novel?

In the 3rd year? Yes

3 weeks after the season ended? Yes

 

[BritCard]

Walter the mindreader is that you?

I don't have to read minds. I can listen to his words.

None of which ever take any kind of responsibility or admit to a poor performance.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

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BIM you are on a roll lately

 

[BritCard]

Part of the reason that Keim bears the responsibility that many are placing on him is because that kind of result was likely based on the roster assembled.

Aging, injury-prone veterans are likely to produce early in the season and tail off or be injured late. Keim had failed to build a roster that can be resilient in the face of that probable but not inevitable outcome.

I don't really agree with the whole "Vets will get injured and draft picks won't" argument. Football outsiders did some data mining on this back in 2015 which showed very little difference.

It gets a bit lumpy in later years as there are not many players of those ages but you can see in absolute terms there is little difference.

A 21 year old has around 38% chance of missing a week. That dips to around 35-37% for ages 23 to 28. Then it goes up a little but tops out at 41% at age 31.

It's a similar picture for 4 weeks+ where a 25 year old has around 17% risk and a 32 year old just under 20%.

That's bigger in relative terms obviously but it's still only about 10% higher risk for an aging vet vs peak.

Many said Green was going to be an injury bust but he played all 17 games. Same with Conner but he played 15. Conversely Nuk has rarely missed time in his career but missed 7 games. Same with Hudson who has only missed more than 1 game once in 10 years but missed 4 this year. It's almost as if injuries are random.

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[QuebecCard]

How on earth are Kyler and Kliff stupid enough to have the same agent? It's a massive conflict of interest to represent 2/3 of the people on the hot seat right now. The fact that they both don't see this is the biggest question mark about both of Kliff and Kyler's mental acuity to me...

Ok, you gave us the 'bumper sticker' now explain precisely why this is relevant?

 

[QuebecCard]

Can't say that I care how much KM receives in a new deal, however, the percentage of the cap going forward could be a problematic issue.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Dude, this is your statement, the statement I responded to:

"Cowboys did the exact same thing with Dak and it didn't work out for them. QB prices will keep going up exponentially.
Waiting isn't the best answer when it comes to QBs. If he is your QBoF, pay him, if not trade him. It should be that simple."

That' the ONLY thing I'm responding to. This simple scenario, pay him or trade him, is what I am addressing. Pay him or trade him, which you posted. Literally has nothing to do with our other problems that are holding us back from being successful. You get how you're moving the goal posts now? Sheesh.

It helps when you bold the part of the conversion you are referring to, like you just did. Otherwise, when you quote the entire post, we assume that is what you are wanting to talk about.

It's all good though, we agree on the important part... Keim sucks!

 

[dreamcastrocks]

In the 3rd year? Yes

3 weeks after the season ended? Yes

I prefer it, actually. Would we rather be having this conversation after free agency, or after the draft, or even during training camp? I sure as hell wouldn't.

 

[Stout]

It helps when you bold the part of the conversion you are referring to, like you just did. Otherwise, when you quote the entire post, we assume that is what you are wanting to talk about.

It's all good though, we agree on the important part... Keim sucks!

Lol that WAS your entire post!

But, yes, Keim sucks too

 

[Stout]

I prefer it, actually. Would we rather be having this conversation after free agency, or after the draft, or even during training camp? I sure as hell wouldn't.

Mm, good point.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

All of this appears to be setting a bad precedent. Is Kyler only going to communicate by manipulating his social media or releasing long childish statements through his agent moving forward? Weak sauce.

 

[kerouac9]

All of this appears to be setting a bad precedent. Is Kyler only going to communicate by manipulating his social media or releasing long childish statements through his agent moving forward? Weak sauce.

So weird considering that last week (Thursday or Friday) Michael Bidwill said that he'd spoken to Kyler personally.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Can't say that I care how much KM receives in a new deal, however, the percentage of the cap going forward could be a problematic issue.

And that raises a great point...signing Kyler now before the upcoming cap increases makes a ton of sense. Projections for the salary cap are pretty bullish, and if you wait too long, the Cardinals might be looking at $50+ million per year instead of $40ish million.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

So weird considering that last week (Thursday or Friday) Michael Bidwill said that he'd spoken to Kyler personally.

Right? They had spoken privately and everything was copacetic. Then...the statement. SMH.

 

[BritCard]

And that raises a great point...signing Kyler now before the upcoming cap increases makes a ton of sense. Projections for the salary cap are pretty bullish, and if you wait too long, the Cardinals might be looking at $50+ million per year instead of $40ish million.

Not really. Because if Kyler and his agent are acting like this now after 3 years and no real achievements then it's completely within their wheelhouse to pull a Julio a few years down the road.