Let’s Take a Moment to Overreact to Kyler’s IG Page

[TJ]

Remember maturity is demanded for the 23 year old QB not the forty/fifty something head coach and GM who are partying and nailing skanks half their age 3-4x per week.

That’s a lot of skanks. If found on Mill Ave, better get tested

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Some people will say anything to detract from Kyler's short comings.

You sound like someone who’s never been in charge of anything important. Leadership starts at the top.

 

[SoonerLou]

The thing is replacing guys like Kyler about 50x harder than replacing bums like Kliff and Keim. That’s my point. I’ve acknowledged Kylers shortcoming many, many times.

Might be confirmation bias. But we've already seen Kliff fail with Mahomes. Im not sure another young QB will change much with Kliff. Its why I say get Aaron Rogers.

Its possibly that Keim would hire an even worse HC. Bidwill just loves him some Keim. So we have to make the best of it.

 

[BritCard]

The thing is replacing guys like Kyler about 50x harder than replacing bums like Kliff and Keim. That’s my point. I’ve acknowledged Kylers shortcoming many, many times.

If we replace Kliff and Keim will that stop Kyler being an immature, finger pointer and poor leader? No it won't.

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't know if these tweets have been posted or have any validity.

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[DVontel]

I’m very thankful of Keim of:

- Drafting back-to-back ILBs in the first round. Top 20 at that.

- Signing a broken down HOFer to a bigger deal than expected.

- Letting go of our best pass-rusher from 2020 for chump-change.

- Signing a broken down WR to a surprising deal.

- Failing to draft OL in the first & second round for multiple years.

- Failing to draft DL in the first & second round for multiple years.


I’m not defending Kyler because Kyler does need to get his head out his ass & refusing to put blame on him is insane.

However, I can easily see this board having this same conversation years from now with a different QB, but with the same GM. Not putting damn near all of the blame on insane. It makes sense why former players threw shade at the organization & will probably continue to do so as long as the GM is in charge. Bad drafts, losing records, & awful FA signings all were here for years before the new regime showed up. He better thank the Lord that BoB as a GM was a jackass.

Bidwill is even a bigger jackass cause he’s the one keeping the younger jackass in charge.

 

[BritCard]

This is the true crux of the issue. It’s the blind leading blind. In that case, you have to choose the blind with the highest upside and then Michael (the king of the blind) has to basically throw darts hoping to get a bullseye on accident to lead what’s left.

I'm generally in agreement with you but not on this.

The Bengals are in the Super Bowl with the worst owner/GM in the league and a HC who has been worse than Kliff.

Because they have a QB who said "Get on board guys. I'll carry you to the SB" instead of one that said "What are you guys doing to get me to the Super Bowl?"

 

[BritCard]

You sound like someone who’s never been in charge of anything important. Leadership starts at the top.

Literally run and own my own business.

Tell me how Mike, Keim and Kliff are worse than Mike Brown and Zac Taylor?

 

[Dr. Jones]

I’m very thankful of Keim of:

- Drafting back-to-back ILBs in the first round. Top 20 at that.

- Signing a broken down HOFer to a bigger deal than expected.

- Letting go of our best pass-rusher from 2020 for chump-change.

- Signing a broken down WR to a surprising deal.

- Failing to draft OL in the first & second round for multiple years.

- Failing to draft DL in the first & second round for multiple years.


I’m not defending Kyler because Kyler does need to get his head out his ass & refusing to put blame on him is insane.

However, I can easily see this board having this same conversation years from now with a different QB, but with the same GM. Not putting damn near all of the blame on insane. It makes sense why former players threw shade at the organization & will probably continue to do so as long as the GM is in charge. Bad drafts, losing records, & awful FA signings all were here for years before the new regime showed up. He better thank the Lord that BoB as a GM was a jackass.

Bidwill is even a bigger jackass cause he’s the one keeping the younger jackass in charge.

I'm on board.

 

[DVontel]

The Bengals are in the Super Bowl with the worst owner/GM

Mike Brown is cheap. Or, at least was when it came to FA spending. As a team builder/drafter, he is clearly & has always been above Keim in that regard.

Outside of Palmer, I haven’t seen former Bengal players throw shots at that organization over the years.


You’re gonna claim I’m defending Kyler when I’m clearly not, but the fact that you have been defending Keim even just a little bit in this thread is alarming.

 

[Shane]

Literally run and own my own business.

Tell me how Mike, Keim and Kliff are worse than Mike Brown and Zac Taylor?

Mike Brown is definitely a great day in at owner and that has been proven over decades

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Fitz was smart to step away from this circus of a team when he did. He was in that locker room and likely saw the writing on the wall.

 

[kerouac9]

Literally run and own my own business.

Tell me how Mike, Keim and Kliff are worse than Mike Brown and Zac Taylor?

They’re not. That’s the problem. They got Burrow to put everything together for them.

Kyler isn’t going to do that, so you look for someone above him who can.

The problem is that finding a QB who is 90th percentile in every other category amongst his NFL peers is much more difficult than finding a Head Coach or GM who can.

 

[BritCard]

Mike Brown is cheap. Or, at least was when it came to FA spending. As a team builder/drafter, he is clearly & has always been above Keim in that regard.

Outside of Palmer, I haven’t seen former Bengal players throw shots at that organization over the years.


You’re gonna claim I’m defending Kyler when I’m clearly not, but the fact that you have been defending Keim even just a little bit in this thread is alarming.

I'm not defending him. It's just a completely separate issue to Kyler being whiny and immature.

And frankly Keim has done quite a lot to build around Kyler from trading for Nuk, Ertz and Hudson to drafting Moore who Kyler wanted.

 

[unseenaz]

Wait......Wait........are you trying to tell me that all this speculation about Kyler's Instagram, followed incessantly by adult men on a forum, is going to turn out to be nonsense? What? Are you telling me that Kyler isn't a petulant child who would delete his entire SM to "show the ownership?"

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This has been, quite literally, the dumbest thread to have ever existed. It also shows what flimsy pretext some of you have for spending days bashing Kyler's character.

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[BritCard]

They’re not. That’s the problem. They got Burrow to put everything together for them.

Kyler isn’t going to do that, so you look for someone above him who can.

The problem is that finding a QB who is 90th percentile in every other category amongst his NFL peers is much more difficult than finding a Head Coach or GM who can.

Exactly but Nobody above Kyler can do what Kyler can't.

 

[Shane]

Fitz was smart to step away from this circus of a team when he did. He was in that locker room and likely saw the writing on the wall.

Well and the fact that he kinda sucked now. Lol reality…

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Mike Brown is definitely a great day in at owner and that has been proven over decades

Well our GM is a known alcoholic and adulterer who sucks at his job and has a disaster of a personal life. Kliff got canned by a middling Big12 school and his own alma mater in fact.

I can’t speak to what Cincy has going on but that’s atrocious on all fronts. Zac Taylor at least appears to have worked his way up the NFL ranks in some regard.

 

[SoonerLou]

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Just not sure how you leak the story and then release a statement after just shredding him on the day of the Super Bowl.

Thats not going to work imo.

 

[GatorAZ]

I don't know if these tweets have been posted or have any validity.

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Just an odd report and follow up tweet. I’m a little surprised ESPN handed this off to an over the hill insider and not one of their big guns.

 

[BritCard]

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Just not sure how you leak the story and then release a statement after just shredding him on the day of the Super Bowl.

Thats not going to work imo.

The sources in the original story could be anyone. Could be a player. In fact it's most likely its a player.

But this statement doesn't deny the allegations that he's immature.

 

[SoonerLou]

Just an odd report and follow up tweet. I’m a little surprised ESPN handed this off to an over the hill insider and not one of their big guns.

Thats why I think they sent the follow up response to Florio. It comes across like we really hate this guy, but we're trying to make it work, lol.

If the response to Florio is real then the next topic of discussion is why not give him the contract extension. Unless you really dont think he's guy.

 

[SoonerLou]

The sources in the original story could be anyone. Could be a player. In fact it's most likely its a player.

But this statement doesn't deny the allegations that he's immature.

A player would know that Kliff is going to self scout on how to handle Kyler better? As @GatorAZ said the follow up tweet just makes it odd.

 

[SeattleCardinal]

Kyler Murray social media scrub fueled by Cardinals QB's frustration, embarrassment, per report

Cardinals' Kyler Murray social media scrub fueled by frustration, embarrassment, per report

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Not a good situation, overreaction or not.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Just a sh-tshow organizational failure.

Keim has to go. Even with all the personnel blunders its his job to keep this stuff in house. Instead he’s blacking out at the Open all week.