Grizzlies @ Suns Sunday game thread 1-5-20

[Chaplin]

UARIZONATJ have no objectivity on the subject.

Attack the post not the poster right?

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns do not have anyone who can guard Valanciunas.

 

[1Sun]

Rubio wasn't a good pick up at the price

Would you rather have Terry freaking Rozier at an even higher price over more years?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Talk about short sighted. He has a less than great game (although he is leading this comeback) and he’s a terribly expensive signing?

Game threads suck.

Yes they bring out the worst in us. All emotion. Even I can admit that.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Would you rather have Terry freaking Rozier at an even higher price over more years?

Rubio in a vacuum isn't an issue

Rubio at his contract, which was widely rediculed by other NBA GMs, is

 

[Chaplin]

Rubio in a vacuum isn't an issue

Rubio at his contract, which was widely rediculed by other NBA GMs is

Nobody thought his contribution would be this profound. You’re rehashing outdated information to fit your negative narrative.

 

[Phrazbit]

Going away from the 2 big man look we've taken 10 points off the lead in only a few minutes.

 

[Mainstreet]

Rubio in a vacuum isn't an issue

Rubio at his contract, which was widely rediculed by other NBA GMs, is

The bigger issue, the Suns are experiencing the results of drafting poorly for years.

 

[Hoop Head]

Ayton needs to play inside more often. It was not all Igor.

I definitely prefer Monty to Igor and am glad we went out and got Monty but Igor was not the issue with Ayton's play last year. I doubt many will acknowledge that but it is true.

Almost every game thread had someone calling for Igor's head in the 2nd half because Ayton wasn't getting enough touches or was playing too far from the basket. That's who Ayton is, not who Igor told him to be.

I think Igor did what he could to work around it and it seems like Monty is doing the same only he has more leeway than Igor, using Ayton as a PF instead of C.

 

[TJ]

UARIZONATJ have no objectivity on the subject.

Can’t respond, so go after the poster.

Stay classy.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Talk about short sighted. He has a less than great game (although he is leading this comeback) and he’s a terribly expensive signing?

Game threads suck.

He’s not leading this comeback... that would be Oubre and Booker. And, go back if you want in other threads and you’ll see that I routinely rag on Rubio. I have never been a fan. And yet, I was ok with the signing because there weren’t many other viable options...

 

[1Sun]

Rubio in a vacuum isn't an issue

Rubio at his contract, which was widely rediculed by other NBA GMs, is

Well, when you look at the alternatives (Rozier's even more ridiculous contract, Cory freaking Joseph or the game G-League fodder that had already been a disaster for two seasons), it had to be done, in my opinion.

The player I wanted, of course, was Brogdon.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

I am not rehashing anything

Every advanced metric Rubio has right now is atrocious. Career lows except like year 2

He is having a bad year

 

[Sunstroke]

When I was pounding in Ayton everyone was saying "but he will get many FTs and put the opposing team in foul trouble"

He has ZERO FTs

He sucks as a big man. Million dollar talent and a .05 heart

Suns do not have anyone who can guard Valanciunas.

They are supposed to. He's their #1 pick from last year. Still getting bullied by Eastern Euro big men.
'Baby f'ing Huey.'

 

[1Sun]

The bigger issue, the Suns are experiencing the results of drafting poorly for years.

Including, and especially, in 2019...

 

[Mainstreet]

I definitely prefer Monty to Igor and am glad we went out and got Monty but Igor was not the issue with Ayton's play last year. I doubt many will acknowledge that but it is true.

Almost every game thread had someone calling for Igor's head in the 2nd half because Ayton wasn't getting enough touches or was playing too far from the basket. That's who Ayton is, not who Igor told him to be.

I think Igor did what he could to work around it and it seems like Monty is doing the same only he has more leeway than Igor, using Ayton as a PF instead of C.

Plus the Suns couldn't even get him a point guard.

 

[Chaplin]

He’s not leading this comeback... that would be Oubre and Booker. And, go back if you want in other threads and you’ll see that I routinely rag on Rubio. I have never been a fan. And yet, I was ok with the signing because there weren’t many other viable options...

How is Rubio such a bad signing?? You’re complaining just to do it. Maybe you’re just tired of using Ayton as a whipping boy so you turn to Rubio, who is the least of our problems.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns need 3 more players that want it as much as Booker and Oubre. Some of it is a lack of talent though.

 

[82CardsGrad]

How is Rubio such a bad signing?? You’re complaining just to do it. Maybe you’re just tired of using Ayton as a whipping boy so you turn to Rubio, who is the least of our problems.

LOL... I’ve been one of the Ayton defenders Chap... Get real dude.

 

[Phrazbit]

Ayton + 10, Baynes -18... and that is with them playing a LOT of minutes together.

Monty needs to revamp his rotations. Tighten them up and use ditch a lot of these obviously terrible experiments.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

How is Rubio such a bad signing?? You’re complaining just to do it. Maybe you’re just tired of using Ayton as a whipping boy so you turn to Rubio, who is the least of our problems.

Stop it

If he doesn't have the ball on offense he is a net negative right now. 41% from the field. 30% from 3.

When he is off ball everyone doubles off him and it disrupts spacing.

But it's his contract that makes him a bad signing regardless of the career lows

 

[Mainstreet]

Where has that defense been?

 

[Hoop Head]

I am not rehashing anything

Every advanced metric Rubio has right now is atrocious. Career lows except like year 2

He is having a bad year

What advanced metrics are those? He's having his 2nd best year in eFG%, has the lowest turnover % of his career, and 2nd highest PER. I'm just not seeing these career lows in any stats that carry any weight. I'm not seeing them in any category really.

 

[TJ]

Rubio has done the job he’s been asked to do which is improve the flow of the offense. Again, another player who’s part of the solution.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

If Ayton just stands still and doesn't jump that is a charge