Rapoport: "The Arizona Cardinals have received calls from teams about trading up."

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I like the idea of keeping Bosa from 49ers or making them pay dearly to get him.
 

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i want them to draft murray but i can undesrtand if they decide to stick with rosen
Moving back few spots like 5 or 6 and getting ed oliver plus another first round pick doesnt look bad
I don't trust Keim enough to pick Oliver though which is the problem.
 

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Yeah lets pass on Aaron Rogers because we have Josh McCowns.

If it were only that easy. 23ish teams passed on Rodgers.

9 teams passed Mahomes including the Jets, Bengals, Browns, Bears, and Titans.

The Bears picked Trubisky vs Mahomes.

Again, the only question that needs to be answered:

How do the Cardinals rate Murray vs Rosen.

1-2 games/wins better...you keep Rosen.

3 games/wins better...have to consider Rosen + Bosa/Williams

4 games\wins better - have to go Murray
 

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If it were only that easy. 23ish teams passed on Rodgers.

9 teams passed Mahomes including the Jets, Bengals, Browns, Bears, and Titans.

The Bears picked Trubisky vs Mahomes.

Again, the only question that needs to be answered:

How do the Cardinals rate Murray vs Rosen.

1-2 games/wins better...you keep Rosen.

3 games/wins better...have to consider Rosen + Bosa/Williams

4 games\wins better - have to go Murray

I think you would be peeing against the wind if you think Murray will bring 4 games better.
 

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If it were only that easy. 23ish teams passed on Rodgers.

9 teams passed Mahomes including the Jets, Bengals, Browns, Bears, and Titans.

The Bears picked Trubisky vs Mahomes.

Again, the only question that needs to be answered:

How do the Cardinals rate Murray vs Rosen.

1-2 games/wins better...you keep Rosen.

3 games/wins better...have to consider Rosen + Bosa/Williams

4 games\wins better - have to go Murray

Any GM who is making this pick worrying about the impact on the 2019 season should be fired immediately.
 

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Are you content flying forward with Murray and the free agents they've brought in? Take Murray if you think he's a game changer, but it'll cost you a shot at all of the best players in this draft otherwise, which you'd have your pick of if you run with Rosen and build around him.
 

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If there's a future Aaron Rogers in this draft, I doubt that it's Mini-me.

Let's keep the guy who more closely resembles the Roger's style of play and let his former QB coach (Tom Clements) tutor Rosen.
Seems Rosen gets ripped for invalid reasons.

Too cocky
Varied interests outside of football world
Has opinions
Not a Bible/Torah beater

etc.

He is not stereotypical, but he is talented. I want the guy here.
 

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Seems Rosen gets ripped for invalid reasons.

Too cocky
Varied interests outside of football world
Has opinions
Not a Bible/Torah beater

etc.

He is not stereotypical, but he is talented. I want the guy here.

Um... Maybe before the draft, but I think that people now are ripping Rosen for playing very bad football, especially after the first two games.

My argument is that if you really believed in him 12 months ago and believed that the coaching was so bad last year you had to completely clean the deck, then you shouldn't change your mind on the initial evaluation. There were good things mixed in with the bad. I don't believe that Rosen is Christian Ponder or E.J. Manuel.
 

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Um... Maybe before the draft, but I think that people now are ripping Rosen for playing very bad football, especially after the first two games.

My argument is that if you really believed in him 12 months ago and believed that the coaching was so bad last year you had to completely clean the deck, then you shouldn't change your mind on the initial evaluation. There were good things mixed in with the bad. I don't believe that Rosen is Christian Ponder or E.J. Manuel.
pretty much. We obviously had him ranked very high and we fired everyone, he deserves a shot with competent coaching and I am convinced this coaching staff is far more competent already even if you look past the HC.
 

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