A lot being made of Palmer's age . John Elway played in { 5 } super bowls over his career , he lost { 3 } , the { 2 } that he won was at age 37 and age 38 . If MB --- SK --- BA keep putting the right kind of talent around Palmer , I believe that he could play at a high level for another three seasons .
I get what your saying, but that comes down to the talent around him, his arm strength and his ability to stay healthy. If those things all happen for the next 3 years or so than he could continue to post these big numbers.Well, as I said, I can see Palmer having very productive but not as good as this season years in 2016, 2017 and maybe 2018 (when he hits 38).
Aside from Brady (who is 38) and Manning (who is 39 and breaking down hard), Moon averaged 19 TD's and 2,700 yards from the age of 38 thru his last year.
Warner retired at 38...
Farvre averaged 23 TD's and 3,500 yards from the age of 38 on... But Farvre was much more mobile then Palmer...
We'll see how it all shakes out... My guess is that this season is his high water mark. In 2017 and 2018 he plays well but his TD's and Yards (along with all other passer stats) fall far short of this season. That doesn't mean he'll suck! Far from it. As long as he keeps his INT numbers down, I think he'll play well enough to keep the Cards relevant and a consistent post season threat.
But all bets are off after 2018.
Eli Manning has won 2 SBs and lots of people don't think he's a HOF QB. Decent QBs on bad teams have padded stats because they're always behind and throwing the ball to catch up. Palmer is a good QB, but not HOF imo
interesting... I was JUST going to ask this question. To anyone who thinks Palmer has a shot if he has a couple more great seasons and wins a title, do they also think Eli is automatically in?
I think if Eli reaches 340+ TD's and 50,000+ yards, yes - he's in...
As for Palmer, even if/when he reaches those levels, it would be very difficult for him if he never wins a Super Bowl...
oh, agreed. Palmer has ZERO shot of getting in if he never wins a Super Bowl. and to be honest, the only way he probably gets in is he wins 2. Which is realistically not going to happen.
Yeah, he'll have to have a finish to his career that is completely amazing to even have a shot. Too many years of mediocrity. And, when he seemed to be at the top of his game he got hurt. One point in his favor is he has really had a great comeback from his ACL injury last year.
As I was posting this, I remembered.... When you think of what he did at USC, he had three years where he was literally 50/50 for his TD/INT ratio. Then, as a senior it just clicked and he threw for almost 4,000 yards and 33 TDs. Heisman and #1 pick came because of that one amazing season.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/carson-palmer-1.html
Hopefully, his USC career really foreshadowed his NFL career. Because we have Palmer in his "senior" season of playing in the NFL.
Wow I knew Palmer has been playing some good football but geez... He is putting up crazy numbers when the season is over he may very well put up the best season for any Cardinal QB EVER!
Wow I knew Palmer has been playing some good football but geez... He is putting up crazy numbers when the season is over he may very well put up the best season for any Cardinal QB EVER!
Some seem to overlook how well he is playing , he came into this week leading the NFL in TD passes , he is 21 and 4 in his last 25 game starts . Some might not want to hear this , but Carson is on a pace to surpass all of Kurt's numbers here . That being said , Carson is enjoying the best circumstances of his career because he plays for BA , and Kurt never had that .
He needs to finish his career with back to back superbowl wins to get to that level IMO.
"I'm a Kurt Warner homer"
C.P. is a Heisman winning 1st overall pick. Kurt was the 1 AM stock boy. Love me some C.P. as a Cardinal. What would Kurt do with this team? I don't know but I would love to have seen it. I'm Happy to have them both lead our team. We will never have another Kurt Warner "story" IMO. Thanks Lams I'm glad you still suck.
Is Drew Brees a hall of fame QB?
If KW had this offensive line we'd be still beaming about our Super Bowl win. KW put up sick numbers with an O-line consisting of Deuce Latui, Levi Brown, Reggie Wells, Lyle Sandlein(who, surprisingly is still anchoring the offensive line), and Mike Gandy. If he had this line he'd have thrown for 5,000 yards and 40+ TD's and Edge would have blistered 1,000 yards.
I as much a Palmer fan as anyone but getting into the HOF is going to be a stretch. He's playing at HOF level right now but he'd have to put together about a 4-5 year run at this level of play.
I'm probably in the minority, but I also don't think Warner is a HOF QB.
Is Drew Brees a hall of fame QB?
If KW had this offensive line we'd be still beaming about our Super Bowl win. KW put up sick numbers with an O-line consisting of Deuce Latui, Levi Brown, Reggie Wells, Lyle Sandlein(who, surprisingly is still anchoring the offensive line), and Mike Gandy. If he had this line he'd have thrown for 5,000 yards and 40+ TD's and Edge would have blistered 1,000 yards.
Is Drew Brees a hall of fame QB?