The main problem with this team

[Duckjake]

Our main problem is getting a real number #2 receiver. Defense did enough to win the game. Is Wilson a liability yes. But offense didn't execute in the first half.

The Cards defense has allowed 922 yards in just the first two games of the season. That's unreal.

But we all knew when camp opened that the D would be awful unless the changes at NT worked. Apparently they haven't.

Kolb and Kompany can't outscore everybody. Even Warner, Fitz and Boldin couldn't do that.

 

[CtCardinals78]

The biggest liability with this team is their HC. He gets the wrong personell to fit his schemes, replaces key departures with other teams injured castoffs and mid to late round draft picks and manages games horribly.

 

[conraddobler]

Wilson should be converted to a Lber.

I've said that for a few years now, although he's not big enough it's a better idea to stick him there and get a new safety than it is to leave the gigantor wholes in coverage he manages to leave.

 

[Buckybird]

Peterson is a rookie. He's going to make mistakes. I can live with that. Wilson is beyond Roy Williams bad in coverage. And that's bad.

Why is everyone jumping AW again this week? Didnt AW save 7 pts? IMO the GW TD was on PP...looked like man to man to me & he just quit. I still don't think Wilson played that bad 2day.

 

[Russ Smith]

Didn't see the game but I listened to parts on radio and Pasch and Wolf were harping on a few things.

Without Washington and then Lenon we had to stack the box which made it too easy for them to throw.

Wilson can't cover, he said this several times he said with Peterson being so young you really need Safeties that can be counted on to be where they're supposed to be and wilson wasn't repeatedly.

He said this twice, "the Cards have a REAL problem with Levi Brown, it's not just the inability to pass block consistently it's the penalties and just the fact that they have to scheme plays that happen quickly because he can't give Kolb more time."

Pasch talked about it repeatedly how we had guys open all game if Kolb could get the time from Brown to make the throw. I haven't heard Pasch be that direct about Levi before today he was all over him.

 

[Seandonic]

He IS a HUGE liability on obvious passing downs. He should not be in the game in situations like the 4th down TD to Moss. However, the O-line is THE main problem with this team. After the Skins scored that TD the Cards O still had a chance to put the game away and run the clock down. Instead, mainly due to poor O-line play, they went nowhere and gave the Skins the chance to put them away.

Watch other teams closely (not just highlights) and compare their O-line to the Cards line. You will see a glaring difference. I personally would take almost any other O-line in the NFL over the Cards line.

The interior line of Sendlein, Colledge, and Lutui is OK and should be kept. Next season however, the Cards should cut ties with "stand around" Levi Brown (the worst LT in the NFL) and move Keith back to second string. They should draft a high round tackle to play the right side and throw any amount of money it takes to bring in a capable LT.

With a good line the Cards should be an easy play-off team. As it stands with this O-line though, they are a heartbreaking 9-7 at best team. Sure, that might be enough to win the NFC west but any sustained success will elude them until the O-line is fixed.

 

[conraddobler]

Didn't see the game but I listened to parts on radio and Pasch and Wolf were harping on a few things.

Without Washington and then Lenon we had to stack the box which made it too easy for them to throw.

Wilson can't cover, he said this several times he said with Peterson being so young you really need Safeties that can be counted on to be where they're supposed to be and wilson wasn't repeatedly.

He said this twice, "the Cards have a REAL problem with Levi Brown, it's not just the inability to pass block consistently it's the penalties and just the fact that they have to scheme plays that happen quickly because he can't give Kolb more time."

Pasch talked about it repeatedly how we had guys open all game if Kolb could get the time from Brown to make the throw. I haven't heard Pasch be that direct about Levi before today he was all over him.

Can someone explain to me how we just spent 160 million dollars on offense and forgot to install a left tackle?

Anyone?

That's the Cardinal way of doing things right there, put 160 million dollars into something and then forget something basic like a LT that can play.

 

[Buckybird]

He said this twice, "the Cards have a REAL problem with Levi Brown, it's not just the inability to pass block consistently it's the penalties and just the fact that they have to scheme plays that happen quickly because he can't give Kolb more time."

Pasch talked about it repeatedly how we had guys open all game if Kolb could get the time from Brown to make the throw. I haven't heard Pasch be that direct about Levi before today he was all over him.

I listen to the radio broadcast while watching each game. Pasch is spot on...many blown blocking assignments & bad pass blocking schemes also. Even King was blown up by Orakpo on a block. What kind of scheme allows a free rushing OLB knock down passes to hot WR's twice?

 

[studiovx]

The other thing I noticed is that AW is not actively trying to grab with his injured arm (for obvious reason). Noticed that on a few plays. If you go back and watch the game, notice how he is protecting his right arm and hooking with his left. He'll then wrap with his right after the initial contact. I think he really was responsible for the over the top on the TD, as he was last week. He does the blitz well and delivers the big hits, but pass coverage is awful IMO, and I'm a HUGE fan of his.

 

[Duckjake]

He IS a HUGE liability on obvious passing downs. He should not be in the game in situations like the 4th down TD to Moss. However, the O-line is THE main problem with this team. After the Skins scored that TD the Cards O still had a chance to put the game away and run the clock down. Instead, mainly due to poor O-line play, they went nowhere and gave the Skins the chance to put them away.

Watch other teams closely (not just highlights) and compare their O-line to the Cards line. You will see a glaring difference. I personally would take almost any other O-line in the NFL over the Cards line.

The interior line of Sendlein, Colledge, and Lutui is OK and should be kept. Next season however, the Cards should cut ties with "stand around" Levi Brown (the worst LT in the NFL) and move Keith back to second string. They should draft a high round tackle to play the right side and throw any amount of money it takes to bring in a capable LT.

With a good line the Cards should be an easy play-off team. As it stands with this O-line though, they are a heartbreaking 9-7 at best team. Sure, that might be enough to win the NFC west but any sustained success will elude them until the O-line is fixed.

I just don't agree that a team can be a legit playoff team with a defense that gives up 922 yards in two games. The D blew a 21-13 lead in the 4th.
AGAIN giving up a huge play on 4th down.

But I guess you could be right. With their crappy Defense the Cards need an offense that can be ahead 31 points in the 4th and they aren't going to do that with that Oline.

 

[Buckybird]

Can someone explain to me how we just spent 160 million dollars on offense and forgot to install a left tackle?

Anyone?

That's the Cardinal way of doing things right there, put 160 million dollars into something and then forget something basic like a LT that can play.

The positive...#75 will be gone after this year Let's just hope Kolb doesnt get KO'd before then.

 

[conraddobler]

It's the front office who designs and builds the team and leaves these talent holes wide open while doling out stupid money in some areas.

We need to do better filing in gaps on our roster, we're years away at this rate and will waste all the Fitz dollars if we don't get busy soon filling in the holes.

Lbers are a problem, saftey is a problem, our whole defensive secondary is either new or too old.

We play a 3-4 with either no names or aging wonders, it's a train wreck waiting to happen.

Now we need a LT too.

This team has a ton of holes, and it's almost too many to patch in a year or two.

 

[Duckjake]

It's the front office who designs and builds the team and leaves these talent holes wide open while doling out stupid money in some areas.

We need to do better filing in gaps on our roster, we're years away at this rate and will waste all the Fitz dollars if we don't get busy soon filling in the holes.

Lbers are a problem, saftey is a problem, our whole defensive secondary is either new or too old.

We play a 3-4 with either no names or aging wonders, it's a train wreck waiting to happen.

Now we need a LT too.

This team has a ton of holes, and it's almost too many to patch in a year or two.

If that's true why do they keep hiring people who used to work for Pittsburgh?

 

[conraddobler]

If that's true why do they keep hiring people who used to work for Pittsburgh?

I guess cause they think it's all about the schemes.

Pittsburg is great at casting off players when they are done, bringing them in is stupid.

Bringing the coaches in without the same talent base is unbelieveably stupid.

There was a stretch there where Pittsburg was good and still got lit up by passing offenses, it takes a very good team to blitz like they do and make it work without giving up gigantic amounts of yardage.

Trying to run it with our players is beyond stupid, I put that on the coaches, the water boy, the front office and any players who don't have the balls to mention it.

 

[Buckybird]

If that's true why do they keep hiring people who used to work for Pittsburgh?

If we're smart Horton adapts a D schematically to the players he has right now. The 3-4 isn't it IMO & we're not the Pittsburgh Stealers & the faster the coaches realize this the better off that the better our D will be in the long run.

Duck as I've said many times the last few years, you can change D coordinators every year, but until you get the personel on the field things will never change.

 

[conraddobler]

If we're smart Horton adapts a D schematically to the players he has right now. The 3-4 isn't it IMO & we're not the Pittsburgh Stealers & the faster the coaches realize this the better off that the better our D will be in the long run.

Duck as I've said many times the last few years, you can change D coordinators every year, but until you get the personel on the field things will never change.

We've had two defensive Coordinator scape goats and we're working on our third.

You need players to run a defense, we're in year 3 or 4 of converting to a 3/4 and we STILL only have one stud LBer and he's brand new.

That's just stupid, stupid stupid planning.

It's stupid.

 

[D-Dogg]

Why is everyone jumping AW again this week? Didnt AW save 7 pts? IMO the GW TD was on PP...looked like man to man to me & he just quit. I still don't think Wilson played that bad 2day.

??

Which TD? The Moss?

 

[Seandonic]

I just don't agree that a team can be a legit playoff team with a defense that gives up 922 yards in two games. The D blew a 21-13 lead in the 4th.
AGAIN giving up a huge play on 4th down.

But I guess you could be right. With their crappy Defense the Cards need an offense that can be ahead 31 points in the 4th and they aren't going to do that with that Oline.

I totally agree with you Duck, that this D is horrible right now. But, they are learning a new system on the fly and therefore have a hope of improving as this year and for that matter the next couple of years play out. They are really just a consistent pass rusher away from decency IMHO.

The O-line and subsequently the entire offense however, has no hope of improving with the tackles it fields right now.

 

[Buckybird]

??

Which TD? The Moss?

yep

 

[Buckybird]

I totally agree with you Duck, that this D is horrible right now. But, they are learning a new system on the fly and therefore have a hope of improving as this year and for that matter the next couple of years play out. They are really just a consistent pass rusher away from decency IMHO.

How many years have we been hearing that now

They don't have the talent or the skillset to run the 3-4 IMO.

 

[Seandonic]

How many years have we been hearing that now

Sad, but so true.

 

[D-Dogg]

Yeah, that wasn't man. Watch PP presnap - he walks over to the middle left..he is not lined up man.

He was zoned there to jump any routes that were short over the middle aiming at picking up the first down. AW was the deep cover in case they went balls out and went for 6. That wasn't a man up situation that he gave up on moss in. That was AW, all the way.

I love both of those guys - but that was on AW.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Yeah, that wasn't man. Watch PP presnap - he walks over to the middle left..he is not lined up man.

He was zoned there to jump any routes that were short over the middle aiming at picking up the first down. AW was the deep cover in case they went balls out and went for 6. That wasn't a man up situation that he gave up on moss in. That was AW, all the way.

I love both of those guys - but that was on AW.

You are correct sir. PP even looked back at AW with his hands in the air...Like WTF???

 

[Russ Smith]

I listen to the radio broadcast while watching each game. Pasch is spot on...many blown blocking assignments & bad pass blocking schemes also. Even King was blown up by Orakpo on a block. What kind of scheme allows a free rushing OLB knock down passes to hot WR's twice?

I forgot to add he also said "Eventually Patrick Peterson is going to have to hit someone". Said it after a run play where he felt Peterson laid off instead of coming up hard to make the hit.

 

[Broseph]

he was always a mediocre at best cover guy, but as he ages he is becoming horrible back there. we should of moved him to LB a long time ago. we need a nice ball hawk safety back there. i don't think rhodes is great in coverage either as he has been burnt very often in pass plays as well.