You guys are crazy wanting to trade PP

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    He’d lead the league in INT’s with all the passing today and the man never lost interest or concentration even on crap teams.
     
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    I mentioned nothing about run game. Someone mentioned that AW would be a better cover guy today than when he played and I don’t particularly see how.
     
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    But would he get all those interceptions while not being allowed to basically even touch a WR? There was a lot of plays back then where a corner would damn near mug a WR before picking off the pass. I would also argue that receivers are all around more athletic today than they were back then. So combine more speed on the field with less allowable contact and coverage is much tougher today.
     
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    I thought they just said he’d be just as good today period.

    edit: that is what he said. You mentioned cover skills but your entire post was in response to AW being a better overall player.

    which he was and would be.
     
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    Stephon Gilmore won DPOY last year Aeneas would be just fine lol.
     
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    The comment said "he would be even better today" and while I do think he would still be a damn good player today I don't by any means think he would be better. Coverage is simply more difficult in today's NFL.
     
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    oh Jesus... I forgot you were the guy who said that Devin Booker was a better offensive player than Kobe using this same kind of twisted logic.

    the world didn’t start with you starting to watch sports.
     
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    you literally have nothing to back this up.
     
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    And your point? Gilmore was able to put up 6 interceptions, 1 fumble recovery and scored 2 defensive TDs while having to adhere to today's rules. No guarantee AW would be putting up those same stats today.
     
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    And he has nothing to back up that he would be better either.....You're lack of logic is astounding...
     
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    Booker is absolutely a better offensive player than Kobe. He isn't by any means as good overall as Kobe, but purely looking at offense he is better. Unfortunately for him the game is played on both ends.
     
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    Well I’m not sure if you remember peak Aeneas or not but you’re talking about dropping a player into a different era. With the caveat that Aeneas would’ve already played in and developed his game in THIS era there’s no question in my mind he’d still be amazing.
     
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    He was extremely talented and would thus still be a damn good player today, but his stats likely wouldn't have been as gaudy as they were simply because today's NFL makes covering WRs a much tougher task than in the past.
     
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    Kobe dragged a couple of horrible teams to the playoffs. Teams who’s third leading scorer was Smush Parker yet finished top-10 in scoring offense. That goes beyond advanced metrics comparisons between players otherwise James Harden is a better offensive player than Michael Jordan too.
     
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    PP has been a non factor in all but a few games in the last couple of years. It is time to move on.
     

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