Wk 12-Arizona Cardinals @ NE Patriots Pre Game Thread. 2020

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  1. Finito

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    Say Larry Fitzgerald retired last year and his replacement was a guy named Bob Smith and gave you the exact same production Larry is giving you anyone here claiming he’s so valuable

    nope
     
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    1. “there’s only so much defenses can do” is a comment mired in massive ignorance. There are thousands of variations of defensive formations and alignments, blitz shows and coverage drops, zone coverage facades and robber rolls. You don’t know what you don’t know.

    2. it’s not “an achievement” for coaches if their teams start slow, just as it isn’t for coaches whose teams start fast—that obviously followed from my post so you’re willfully misreading it or just don’t understand (again).

    3. of course every team scripts plays they think will work; the point is that day specific information in a sport with massive injuries and fluctuating performance accrues massively in importance over priors after several drives.
     
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    Seriously dude....... Having Fitz in the locker room, and on the field has immeasurable value. Regardless of whether or not he ever catches a pass again.
     
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    how valuable was he when we were 3-13? Hmmmm
     
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    Just as valuable.
     
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    oh ok. Just checking
     
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    We will soon find out the quantity of this “immeasurable value”.
     
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    Early east coast road game vs. a coach and QB who’ve had little trouble with Cards in their careers. A depleted defense as well. Pats likely win this game 23-16. Fits does a ton of things on the field that do not show up on the stat sheet, big loss IMO. Pats young RB has a running style made to beat this team.
     
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    We haven't gone under 21pts in any games this season. The Patriots are not the defense to be changing that stat this weekend.
     
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    So what you are saying is that the Pats, in the same season with the same coaches and personnel, are going to do something completely different against us than they did vs Watson / Fuller or Wilson / Metcalf?

    You really think teams have multiple "best ways" to stop a mobile QB and a top WR?

    The Texans game was a great warm up for them and at the same time Seattle gave BB the blueprint to stop our offense. If Kliff isn't expecting something very similar he's in the wrong job.
     
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    I think Fitz is a huge loss. Fitz was our leading receiver last week because the Seahawks schemed to take away throws outside the numbers where Kyler likes to go. The Pats will do the same with better DBs.

    We needed a reliable slot and that's gone.

    And when Isabella has 3 catches for 20 yards can we put the "Andy will come good. He just needs more snaps" myth to bed?
     
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    When I expect a win (Lions, Panthers, Miami) we lose. So it's safest to expect a loss then I can't be disappointed.
     
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    uhhh, it doesn’t help...
     
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    Warm up? lol. So what the hell was them against Seattle & Buffalo then? Unless another typhoon comes & helps like it did against Baltimore.
     
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    We have great playmakers on offense and unfortunately have a head coach that says after every loss “I have to call better plays.”
    Offense always starts out with a horizontal attack with 3 yd gains then in second half goes vertical to catch up. Defense starts out stopping no one then plays hard and smart(blitzes, etc) in second half to get us back into the game.
    KK is the problem.
    After this season when we all reflect back on it we will be grateful how we have improved as a team but realize we are handcuffed with KK.
    At least I hope so as he will NOT ever take any team deep in the playoffs.
     

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