Who's your most underappreciated player in Cardinal history

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  1. cheesebeef

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    and then signed a 4 year 18 million dollar extension five months later.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/30/...-jamir-miller-agrees-to-4-year-extension.html

    That 2 year 6 million dollar deal was a freaking joke.
     
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    I don't see how he was under appreciated. He was so hyped up by fans, honestly, even though he was good, I would lean towards him being overrated here. People for years acted as though he was a top 5 receiver in the league.
     
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    I still judge all Interior defensive line against Eric Swann.

    Aaron Donald is like the mini-Swann.

    Swann was a prolific wifebeater. I knew his wife and there is a reason that his sons both have their stepfather's name and have no contact with him.
     
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    Baldinger broke his ankle and brags he did it on purpose, but I forget who originally took out his knee. It's one of those who do you cheer for stories, Swann said the Eagles were intentionally going for his legs and someone took out his knee, can't remember who. He publicly blamed the coach Kotite saying he had been told by Eagles players the coach told them to go after Swann's legs and he'd be easier to block. The Eagles say Swann was the dirty player(Baldinger said dirtiest ever and he injured Baldinger's knee). Being a Cards fan I remember Eric getting hurt by the Eagles first and then yeah I remember him going after Eagles players who went low. i think he punched one in the head for doing it IIRC.

    He apparently used to live in Elk Grove in Sacramento. My girlfriends sister lived nearby him and they didn't even know it. her husband said he saw some open house/garage sale one day and there was a big pic of Swann there. He asked the woman at the sale and she said that's my ex Husband/Boyfriend or something like that. IF you google his name for Elk Grove CA there is indeed a 51 year old listed as having lived there, and before that in North Carolina(where eric was from) so probably the same guy. Doesn't live there now.
     
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    How was it a joke if no other team made him an offer let alone signed him to anything close to that. Cleveland signed him in May. Yes Cleveland extended him the following fall, but no one was willing to give him anything close to what he wanted during free agency. He bet on himself and won, but Cards offered him the better deal then what he signed for during free agency. Cleveland gave him the extension becuase the were a expansion team flush with cash. Cleveland ended up paying him top five LB money, he definitely wasn't worth that in 99 and 2000. Had his one good year and 2001 and then got hurt.

    May 3 1999 article...

    "Yet as of Sunday only the Cardinals had offers on the table, and
    Miller has rejected one, a two-year, $6 million contract. "It's
    doubtful [that Miller will be back]," says club vice president
    Bill Bidwill Jr.

    Other potential suitors were concerned when Miller said that he
    wanted to be among the top-paid players in the league at his
    position. Also, some teams weren't thrilled when they heard that
    Miller, a 6'5", 266-pound run stuffer with superb speed, wanted
    to play for someone who would use him primarily as a pass rusher.

    Miller also has two strikes against him under the league's
    substance-abuse policy. In August 1995 he was suspended for four
    games after a positive drug test. The suspension meant that he
    had tested positive at least once before and that another
    positive test would result in a one-year ban. But Miller says
    that shouldn't be an issue, adding, "If I had continued on like
    I [was], there's no way I'd still be in the league."

    Miller visited the Bears and the Patriots, yet even after
    neither team made an offer, he rejected the Cardinals' proposal.
    He made news in early April when he fired his agent, Steve
    Baker, and hired Leigh Steinberg. The Saints and the Titans have
    shown tepid interest, and though Arizona remains in the picture,
    Bidwill's comments notwithstanding"

    https://www.si.com/vault/1999/05/03/260063/inside-the-nfl





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    Boldin made me feel like a jilted lover.
     
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    The oral surgery office I used to go to weekly did his surgery after “The Hit”. His jersey is framed in the office, signed and wrote “Thanks getting me back on the field”. If his numbers weren’t under appreciated his toughness was.

    I do wonder what his numbers would’ve looked like had we drafted a QB instead of Fitz though..
     
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    It's not that he was hyped up, it was his attitude, the way he carried himself, people who have been around football could appreciate and were drawn to the intensity he played with, thats why he was so popular. There was 0 reason not to offer him a contract extension. I know this pissed off many people because Q had some hardcore fans, myself included. He should have been a Cardinal for 10+ years.
     
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    They made a contract offer, but by that point the relationship had soured and the word then was that he wanted Fitzgerald type money; no team could afford two of those contracts, if true.
     
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    Swann may have been a juicer, which led to his body breaking down. I also heard he was a wifebeater & the roids may have also contributed to that.
     
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    Swann had cartilage issues. He was a big strong country boy.
     
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    This reminded me of Larry. :)

     
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    Easily Larry met him at work back in the day too, nice guy

    Larry Centers
     
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    he was insanely jealous of Fitz. He wanted to be the man
     
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