Whisenhunt: Relationships in Question

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Let's see now---

1. Anquan Boldin---how any NFL head coach could manage to alienate this guy is beyond comprehension...and at the time of the NFC Championship it seemed incomprehensible that Boldin would still be so indignant...

2. Matt Leinart---it's not so much that Whisenhunt found the faults in Leinart---it's how he handled the Leinart situation that was regrettable, not only for Leinart but for the team on the eve of the new season.

3. Beanie Wells---never seemed to fit Whisenhunt's system to begin with because he is so one-dimensional. Despite the glaring needs in the o-line and at pass rusher, Whisenhunt uses the first round pick following the Super Bowl on Wells, and he can't even beat out THT---and then---came the knee injury---and then something that is still virtually impossible to comprehend, that despite the knee issue, Whisenhunt pounds the ball with Wells deep into the second halfs of pre-season games.

Then this year---Wells gets hurt again (a toe this time), and even thought the team was off to a great start, Whisenhunt decided to throw Wells on the temporary IR, while Whisenhunt keeps injured TE Todd Heap the entire duration of that time. Wells was clamoring that he was fine and ready to go three weeks before he was eligible to come off the IR. Meanwhile, Heap continues to be de-activated on game days.

Now Wells says he's auditioning for 31 teams---not to excuse him for his non-contact fumble on the one inch line last week---but it is what it is.

4. Todd Heap---what in the world happened with this guy? First there were rumors to the effect that when Whisenhunt following a loss was casting blame on players who weren't participating (e.g. Todd Heap)---then when Heap was finally healthy enough to play---he gets de-activated again, and then gets cut.

5. Adrian Wilson---first of all, Adrian Wilson has put more blood, sweat and tears into the Cardinals' organization than any coach on the current staff ever has---to make him the scapegoat following the bye week with Whisenhunt's new "holding everyone accountable" rule---was outrageous. There would have been no problem subbing quietly for him in the nickel and dime packages---as he wound up playing the vast majority of the defensive snaps anyway---but to single him out was egregious.

And now Wilson has to face daily questions from the media about it possibly and quite probably being his last game at U of P---I don't know about you, but that has me incredibly upset. Wilson, of anyone, deserves better.

Wilson also agreed to a pay cut this past summer, which is humiliating enough for a recent Pro Bowler---talk about loyalty, though. He was the one who all along stood by the Cardinals when he could have forced his way out of town. He was the one crying tears of joy as the Halas Trophy was being lifted.

The thing is---Wilson can still be a dynamic force for the defense in a modified role---if it were up to me, he wouldn't be going anywhere. I would hate to see him in another team's uniform the same way I hate seeing Boldin as a Raven and hated seeing Aeneas Williams as a Ram.

Adrian Wilson should be a Cardinal for life.

6. Darnell Dockett---something's been not quite right about him all year---not sure in this case what Whisenhunt's role in this is---but the reported $200,000 fine for disobeying team orders seems egregious.

Dockett came to Ray Horton to say he and the defense were ready to go prior to the Lions' game---and boy oh boy were they ready to go---so it wouldn't seem like Dockett's animosity is not directed toward Horton.

In the Bears game, Dockett's effort was poor. Why?

7. John Skelton---sure Skelton was very bad in the Seattle game---but look at the seesaw he has been on with Ken Whisenhunt since the day he was drafted:

a. No first team reps at all as a rookie while Derek Anderson fails and Max Hall is tabbed in front of Skelton.

b. When all QB options were exhausted and it was Skelton's turn, he STILL hadn't had any first team reps and was told that street FA Richard Bartel was being brought in and could start in front of him.

c. Despite the lack of reps, Skelton leads the Cardinals to two wins, one versus the Rams and one versus the Cowboys (in come from behind fashion on Christmas)---which was the one bright spot for an otherwise dismal 5-11 season. Then he gets yanked for Bartel at SF early into the second half, which Skelton said after the game he did not see coming.

d. Ken Whisenhunt says to the media, 'I am not happy or comfortable with any of our QBs."

e. The Cardinals trade for QB Kevin Kolb.

f. Kolb struggles mightily, the team gets off to a 1-6 start, then Kolb gets hurt. Skelton replaces him and proceeds to go 6-2, winning 4 of those games on comeback drives....and winning at Philadelphia in stunning fashion, to boot.

g. Despite mounting a winning streak, Skelton is replaced by Kolb for the Dallas game. Kolb and the Cardinals win.

h. Kolb starts the 49ers game and gets hurt. Skelton leads a big comeback and the Cardinals beat the then 10-2 49ers for the first time in the last six chances.

i. Skelton struggles in the first half versus the Bengals but leads an impressive comeback that ends on a very possible TD pass that Early Doucet slips on. Skelton finishes out the season with a feel-ggod win over the Seahawks---first Cardinals' win in four chances over Pete Carroll.

j. Whisnhunt states that the QB job is an open competition between Kolb and Skelton.

k. Skelton gets the least amount of snaps in pre-season, despite there being 5 pre-season games and despite that Kolb is struggling mightily.

l. Skelton gets the start in the 4th pre-season game---but has to play behind a PS LT and has zero time to throw. Is yanked for Kolb, who thankfully later gets a replacement at LT as starts to produce...which is great for him, but tarnished a little by a poor pick six coming out of the locker room to start the second half.

m. Now a two week wait to hear who the starter will be---and it's been announced that neither Skelton nor Kolb would be getting any snaps in the final pre-season game.

n. In a surprise to some and perhaps many, Skelton is named the starter.

o. Skelton injures his ankle early in the first half, Kolb comes in and leads the team to four straight victories in a similar fashion to how Skelton did the year before: capitalizing on very good defense and despite struggling at time on offense, putting up enough points to win.

p. Kolb and the Cardinals lose game 5 to the Rams---and then in game 6 versus Buffalo at home, a struggling Kolb is injured and Skelton comes in, helps to lead the team to what should have been the game winning field goal, except Feely misses it from 38 yards out. Skelton throws a poor interception in OT and a nine game losing streak is well on its way.

q. Skelton's best game in the interim comes versus GB at Lambeau on a day where the defense gives up some rare big TD plays---but Skelton hangs in there for over 300 yards and the last TD pass of what could well be the season.

r. Despite a stunning 13-3 lead generated by the defense versus the top NFC team in the Falcons at their place, no less---after Skelton misses a wide open Larry Fitzgerald in the end zone causing the team to settle for a field goal instead, Skelton is benched in favor of Ryan Lindley, a rookie who had never taken a snap in an NFL game.

Note: this Atlanta game following the bye week had the Cardinals still in decent shape for playoff contention---if they pull off the stunning win they are 5-5---and the winning formula in the second half of last year was great defense combined with just good enough offense and 4th quarter heroics. That formula was looking great at 13-3---but the formula ended right there when Skelton was pulled.

s. Despite Lindley struggling in epic proportions to the tune of 0-15 on third down conversions in a very winnable Jets' game, with the game on the line and having generated 6 career 4th quarter comebacks, Whisenhunt does not sub Skelton in.

t. Instead, Whisenhunt gives Skelton the dubious task of taking on a red-hot Seahawks team up in Seattle where they almost never lose. Skelton is bad---but then again so is the whole demoralized team to the tune of 58-0 bad. That's it for Skelton. He is yanked in favor of Lindley and Lindley fares no better. Lindley gets the start versus the Lions.

u. A week later Skelton is de-activated versus the Bears in favor of a recently acquired Brian Hoyer.

QBs on yo-yos---not much of a chance is there?

8. Russ Grimm---everyone says Whisenhunt and Grimm are buddy-buddies. But realistically as professionals can anyone possibly think that is the case? First of all, Russ Grimm must still be kicking himself in the arse for not being the first to jump at the Cardinals' job. Grimm didn't read the writing on the wall in Pittsburgh as quickly as Whisenhunt did.

Grimm's performance in Arizona has been suspect at best. But even he has had to suffer through role changes---once upon a time he was the co-offensive coordinator in charge of the running game---but that went away as quickly as a Julius Peppers rush around an isolated Cardinal LT.

The there was the whole Springsteen incident at the Super Bowl---which is about as irresponsible a decision as a coach can make.

To think that Grimm and Whisenhunt are on the same page would be an elastic stretch of anyone's imagination.

And what exactly is Grimm's role as assistant head coach other than to flip pre-game over-the-shoulder tosses for Fitzgerald or than to collect a fatter paycheck?

We hardly ever hear from the guy, do we?

Talk about silent partners.

9. The Bidwills---I actually feel somewhat sorry for them, because this is deja vu all over again for them as the they are now faced with a second time in a row of having to eat the last year of a head coach's contract because the head coach could not provide the stability the organization needs on the field and in its relationships with the players and fans.

Seeing and hearing a raucous hoard of Bears' fans whoop it up at the U of P last Sunday is a symbol and signal of just how far the image and reputation of the franchise has fallen these past three years.

With the Cardinals' fall has been the swift rise of the other NFC West teams in the division as two of them this year are legitimate Super Bowl contenders.

Where I lack sympathy for the Bidwill is how they handled the rare taste of winning on a national stage---it all started to unravel the day Kurt Warner flew to SF.

But now---franchise altering decisions need to be made---let's see how strongly the memory of the taste of winning has remained.
 
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"6. Darnell Dockett---something's been not quite right about him all year---not sure in this case what Whisenhunt's role in this is---but the reported $200,000 fine for disobeying team orders seems egregious.

Dockett came to Ray Horton to say he and the defense were ready to go prior to the Lions' game---and boy oh boy were they ready to go---so it wouldn't seem like Dockett's animosity is not directed toward Horton."



no, I take it as the complete opposite because Dockett manned up and this got out to show he was admitting he was wrong with Horton who was responsible for fining him and suggesting the 'let them score' strategy. He owed it to the guy he disobeyed in Horton and he owed it to his teammates in letting Horton know everything was patched up between Dockett and them...he owed this public statement to get out because he owed it to the fans after the whole Rhodes thing going public. And what he did enabled himself to come clean of it, without directly sacrificing his pride as is unfortunately the nature of the diva with most professional athletes.

This is like some grand conspiracy thread because if one takes any team who makes it to the Super Bowl after years of losing, there are going to be emotional fall out in all directions and then an onslaught of other teams come calling to acquire the talent which got you to the Super Bowl. Then if you start losing in such stretches after tasting the big stage, there becomes huge problems that can erupt. Extreme triumph and disappointment has its emotional mark on players. Whis did not have players ticked at him for his character treatment, Whis has problems because he is losing due to his involvement in poor talent evaluation after those playoff visits.
 
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Interesting read Mitch.

All good points, that I sum up with as "The system doesn't work".

Funny how many defensive players were brought into questions, as they are carrying the team, and how many offensive players seem to "duck the wrath".
 

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Funny how many defensive players were brought into questions, as they are carrying the team, and how many offensive players seem to "duck the wrath".

I don't think that's accurate. Skelton, Lindley, Wells, Batiste, Doucet, and Floyd have all been benched at varying points this year. Not saying it has all been done correctly, but the offensive side of the ball has received the same treatment.
 

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Excellent post OP. Wisenpunt has proven that he isn't willing/able to adjust the X's and O's to work with the personell he has and has now proven that not only is he not a motivator, but in fact he is just the opposite. If a head coach isn't a X's and O's guy and isn't a motovator... What is he?
 

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If you don't produce they deserved to be bench. They should be mad at themselves, not Whis.
 

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Excellent post OP. Wisenpunt has proven that he isn't willing/able to adjust the X's and O's to work with the personell he has and has now proven that not only is he not a motivator, but in fact he is just the opposite. If a head coach isn't a X's and O's guy and isn't a motovator... What is he?

Totally untrue IMO. He HAS changed it, it hasn't worked, but he has changed it. All the max protect packages K9 talks about are real, and theyr'e new. The shorter route stuff to protect the OL etc.

He failed miserably at getting it to work but to deny he's changed anything is just wrong.

You can't motivate bad QB's to be good.
 

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True, but a coaches job is to prepare and motivate his team and he has clearly failed at his job

Sure, but even the best coaches aren't able to motivate everyone. Some players have their own agendas and are resistant to motivation tactics by anyone, especially pro players.

Matt Leinart, IMO, is one of the laziest and mentally weak NFL players in recent memories. Nothing could motivate him to perform to his peak. I dont know how Whiz could have better handled that situation.

Belichek couldn't motivate Haynesworth or Ochocinco to perform. Does that make him a bad coach?

I strongly disagree that Whiz has "clearly failed" at motivating players. His players play very hard for him and many have publicly stated their loyalties to him. The problem is player execution. I guarantee if we had a QB that could throw the ball and a line that could block, Whiz's character would not come into question.
 

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True, but a coaches job is to prepare and motivate his team and he has clearly failed at his job

If some people need motivation from the coach, they are in the wrong profession. They are in the NFL making millions, if that doesn't motivate you enough, something has to be wrong.
 
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Totally untrue IMO. He HAS changed it, it hasn't worked, but he has changed it. All the max protect packages K9 talks about are real, and theyr'e new. The shorter route stuff to protect the OL etc.

He failed miserably at getting it to work but to deny he's changed anything is just wrong.

You can't motivate bad QB's to be good.

He hasn't changed the protection patterns, though, Russ.

This week---get this:

All 3 of Julius Peppers' sacks came on 3rd and 7s---and in none of those cases did the Cardinals chip on Peppers (thus leaving rookie Nate Potter alone on him), nor did they even have the RB in the shotgun to his side.

For a team that has the 5th worst 3rd Down Conversion % in the NFL---since the stat was kept---how can you explain this?

There is no excuse for it.

What is does explain---is WHY the Cardinals have the worst 3rd Down % in the NFL.

And on the rare occasions when the Cardinals do offer help, have you seen the blocking technique that the TEs and RBs use? It's so bad, it's pitiful.
 
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Sure, but even the best coaches aren't able to motivate everyone. Some players have their own agendas and are resistant to motivation tactics by anyone, especially pro players.

Matt Leinart, IMO, is one of the laziest and mentally weak NFL players in recent memories. Nothing could motivate him to perform to his peak. I dont know how Whiz could have better handled that situation.

Belichek couldn't motivate Haynesworth or Ochocinco to perform. Does that make him a bad coach?

I strongly disagree that Whiz has "clearly failed" at motivating players. His players play very hard for him and many have publicly stated their loyalties to him. The problem is player execution. I guarantee if we had a QB that could throw the ball and a line that could block, Whiz's character would not come into question.

Good points about Belichick---but for every one Haynesworth there were 4-5 veterans who jumped on board with a passion.

As for motivating players---yes the players in general are playing hard, and you are so right about the execution, but I would add that motivation comes best through weekly preparation and we are seeing the same old same old every week with very little variation in the monotonous pattern.

Also---can you make a case for any Cardinal player on offense having an above average season by NFL standards?

That part is very disconcerting.
 

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He hasn't changed the protection patterns, though, Russ.

This week---get this:

All 3 of Julius Peppers' sacks came on 3rd and 7s---and in none of those cases did the Cardinals chip on Peppers (thus leaving rookie Nate Potter alone on him), nor did they even have the RB in the shotgun to his side.

For a team that has the 5th worst 3rd Down Conversion % in the NFL---since the stat was kept---how can you explain this?

There is no excuse for it.

What is does explain---is WHY the Cardinals have the worst 3rd Down % in the NFL.

And on the rare occasions when the Cardinals do offer help, have you seen the blocking technique that the TEs and RBs use? It's so bad, it's pitiful.

Sure they have I see in every game multiple plays where we're actually helping BOTH tackles on a play.

That one INT Skelton threw against Seattle I think where were 2 guys out in the pattern on it, 3 tops.

Yes Potter got beat a few times against the Bears but you can't throw the ball if you have to double to help on both tackles.

It hasn't worked, but they HAVE tried. And that stat is highly misleading because it's based on the last few weeks of Lindley and Skelton which has been god awful.

When we had a real NFL QB, we weren't all that bad on 3rd down, aside from all the sacks.

But you throw in a 2-28 or whatever it was there at one point and the stat gets really skewed fast.

Lindley is averaging under 4 YPA on 3rd down, he has no business starting in the NFL right now, but what else do you do continue to start Skelton?
 

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First off Leinart and Whiz's relationship shouldnt even be called into question. Leinart just flat out sucked and had no desire to be good at this game. Whiz has been proven 100% correct in his assessment and questioning him on it is completely bogus Mitch!

The only real sour thing between Whiz and Boldin was the comment Whiz made in the media reference his contract. A mistake? Maybe. But most of Boldins animosity was with Haley and how he was utilized with his PT especially at critical times of the game.

BEanie Wells has created his own issues with injuries, fumbling, and an inability to stay upright. You blame the coach for that? Whatever!
 
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Sure they have I see in every game multiple plays where we're actually helping BOTH tackles on a play.

That one INT Skelton threw against Seattle I think where were 2 guys out in the pattern on it, 3 tops.

Yes Potter got beat a few times against the Bears but you can't throw the ball if you have to double to help on both tackles.

It hasn't worked, but they HAVE tried. And that stat is highly misleading because it's based on the last few weeks of Lindley and Skelton which has been god awful.

When we had a real NFL QB, we weren't all that bad on 3rd down, aside from all the sacks.

But you throw in a 2-28 or whatever it was there at one point and the stat gets really skewed fast.

Lindley is averaging under 4 YPA on 3rd down, he has no business starting in the NFL right now, but what else do you do continue to start Skelton?

Yes, but Massie wasn't the one having the biggest problem in this game and yet the RB was lined up to his side when Peppers had his sacks.

Peppers ended three series on 3rds and 7s each time.

I mean look at the pattern this season of the other team's best rusher versus the Cardinals:

Games where RDEs had multiple sacks versus the Cardinals:

Peppers (3)
Quinn (3)
Aldon Smith (2)
Mario Williams (2)
Jared Allen (2)
John Abraham (2)

Those are just the sacks---all of those guys had constant pressure on our QB---to the point where FOX was timing it at 2.1 seconds for the Cardinals' QB to throw.
 

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Seems like everyone thinks Grimm should go except Whiz. The one possibility that appears feasible to me is Grimm was given the personnel he has with no real input. Or his input was partially ignored and he got what he got. That would then seem to mean Whiz does not see him as completely responsible for the mess that is the Oline
 

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The deal on offense is the coaches adjusted play calling and proctection to the players they have. The bad side is dink and dunk doesn't work in the NFL. It is not a very good offense because we have a bunch of 5th to 7th rookies playing in key positions. A recipe for disaster every time.
 
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First off Leinart and Whiz's relationship shouldnt even be called into question. Leinart just flat out sucked and had no desire to be good at this game. Whiz has been proven 100% correct in his assessment and questioning him on it is completely bogus Mitch!

The only real sour thing between Whiz and Boldin was the comment Whiz made in the media reference his contract. A mistake? Maybe. But most of Boldins animosity was with Haley and how he was utilized with his PT especially at critical times of the game.

Beanie Wells has created his own issues with injuries, fumbling, and an inability to stay upright. You blame the coach for that? Whatever!

In a way you are confirming Whisenhunt's negligence as a talent evaluator---Whisenhunt went into the 2010 season tabbing Leinart as the starter. I and some others on the board at that time were crying out that this was a mistake---maybe you were thinking the same thing back then?

I even said I don't question Whisenhunt's finding fault with Leinart---but, I felt that Whisenhunt mishandled the situation the way he strung Leinart out for the whole pre-season (after losing his patience with Leinart as early as the Red & White game) and by the time Whisenhunt made the final decision to cut him right at the end of the pre-season it seemed it was too late to bring in another viable option at QB (at least in how the Cardinals operate). This left the team with DA and MHall---

At the time too it seemed Whisenhunt was peeved at the FO for not letting him sign Marc Bulger---so maybe that whole dreadful season was Whisenhunt's statement to the FO that they screwed him and the team at the QB position.

it's funny too---I remember distinctly the day Derek Anderson was signed---it was reported that Whisenhunt called Leinart just to make sure he was ok and to remind him that Anderson was signed to be his backup. Whisenhunt and Leinart both stated this publicly.

Anyway---given the options and the fact that when he was cutting Leinart, he was cutting three years of experience in his system, whereas Anderson, Hall and Skelton had none combined---it might have been far more prudent to hang on to Leinart and at least see what he could do when called upon...at least for the team's sake.

I thought Whisnhunt's handling of Leinart at the end was an unnecessary humiliation---he really hanged him out to dry. And it's not like Leinart did anything egregious to deserve public humiliation.

As for Boldin---yes, Boldin was also not that enamored with Haley---but, realistically Shane, if you were the HC of the Cardinals, ESPECIALLY after the horrendous injury Boldin suffered at the end of that meaningless Jets' blowout---wouldn't you have gone and solved the Boldin issue? At least for the sake of the team?

I'll say this last thing about Q---we haven't has as player nearly as tough on offense since...and we have been awful and very soft since.

Wells has been a major disappointment---but like with Dan Williams, Beanie found himself in Whisenhunt's doghouse early---to the tune of being pounded into the line during the second halfs of pre-season games, with a recent knee injury, to boot. Those type of draconian coaching decisions tend to fracture relationships in today's NFL.
 
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Seems like everyone thinks Grimm should go except Whiz. The one possibility that appears feasible to me is Grimm was given the personnel he has with no real input. Or his input was partially ignored and he got what he got. That would then seem to mean Whiz does not see him as completely responsible for the mess that is the Oline

It was only THIS year that Grimm had no input on personnel taken for the O-line. He had huge influence in putting together the road-grader O-line that we seldom used to run with. Steve Kiem was finally given final authority over drafted personnel this year, and we took O-linemen who could pass block. Thank God for that, because when Levi Brown and Bridges went down prior to game one, we at least had some rookies who could keep themselves between the pass rusher and the QB for the most part.

Can you even begin to imagine what our O-line play would have been this year with only Batiste, and any street-available OT's that Whiz could find when Brown and Bridges went down? Yes, Potter and Massie were exposed as rookies. ALL rookies are. But these rookies did manage to keep the outside rush off our QB's better than any of our other OT's over the time that Whiz and Grimm were the final say on who we took as O-linemen.

Whiz, (and Grimm, his decipel), are responsible for almost ALL our offensive problems, (linemen, and RB's included). Yes, they rode Kurt Warner's coat-tail to the SB, but beyond Warner, this tandem has been clueless about putting together an even mediocre offense. All our WR depth has gone a-wasting, (Fitzgerald included). The window has slammed shut on what talent we did have on offense, and it is time to blow this mess up and start over. The entire offensive coaching staff needs to go as soon as the post game presser starts, and Michael should use that venue to announce their firing.
 

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It was only THIS year that Grimm had no input on personnel taken for the O-line. He had huge influence in putting together the road-grader O-line that we seldom used to run with. Steve Kiem was finally given final authority over drafted personnel this year, and we took O-linemen who could pass block. .

Where is this coming from? I find it really hard to believe that a position coach had "no" input on who was going to be drafted in his area of responsibility? Are you seriously saying the entire draft was made by Keim? I haven't read or heard of this anywhere.
 
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I would like to expound further on the Bidwills---

Now that it appears imminent, as with Denny Green who made a real mess of things with one year left on his contract, that Ken Whisenhunt has backed the Bidwills into the same corner---it makes me wonder whether the coaches feel they can get away with subpar preparations and results in thinking that Bidwills really aren't all that football savvy.

Compounding the matter is that it wouldn't seem that Rod Graves has the gravitas or clout to put too much pressure on the coaches.

Or---could it be that whomever coaches for the Bidwills develops such a disdain for them and the way they do business that they almost turn vindictive, the way Whisenhunt seemed to two years ago at the very start of the QB charade and now this year---as if they just want to rub it in the Bidwills' faces that they didn't get taken care of personnel-wise?

What irked me about Denny Green so much---right from day one---is that he had the arrogance to think that if he drafted well all he had to do was show up and winning would take care of itself. He proclaimed himself to be an offensive guru and genius---guaranteeing a Top 5 offense---and yet when we saw the product on the field there was nothing special whatsoever about his offense---and even worse, he was having it run by unqualified OCs.

What irks me similarly about Ken Whisenhunt is the throughly conspicuous lack of fundamentals and attention to detail his offenses have shown the past three years. Plus, the monotony of the same lousy plays and lousy decisions being made on 3rd downs---from week to week to week for three years.

I can honestly say this---that if the proof is in the pudding (the tapes) it looks very clear to me that both Green and Whisenhunt did not give their players, their owners or the fans their due diligence.

Neither Green's offense nor Whisenhunt's offense (sans Warner) ever gave me the impression that careful and creative game planning was being accomplished during the weeks.

Plus, how is it that Whisenhunt, an ex NFL TE, can't get one, I mean one, above average performance from one of his yearly 3-4 TE in SIX years.

Now---we know from the past 25 years, the head coaches who get fired by the Bidwills do not go on to land other HC jobs in the NFL, save when Al Davis added Joe Bugel to his yearly head coaching carousel.

Thus it would be very interesting to see if Whisenhunt can get another NFL head coaching opportunity---because he will have to try to convince another NFL owner that the Bidwills were the problem.

Seeing as Whisenhunt is quick to throw his players under the bus---it would seem a natural that he would throw the Bidwills there too.

But I can say this---as someone who for the past three years has been in charge of hiring personnel---I am turned off by candidates who come in and blame their situations entirely on their past bosses.

And thus far---Whisenhunt has never shown one iota of humility in the demise of the franchise under his watch---alarmingly so.

My guess is---and I stated this previously---he won't get another HC job. In fact, i think he might drop off the NFL map the way Jim Fassel did. Let's not forget that Jim Fassel also won an NFC Championship.

Just not enough expertise---and not enough willingness to accept the blame for past mistakes...that and an arrogance that they always deserved better.

You remember when Fassel--after being axed by the Giants---sneered at the prospects of the Cardinals' HC job, thinking he would have pick of several better head coaching situations?
 
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As usual, bs in each of the first three points made the rest unreadable. Way to stay consistent Mitch.
 
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