What happened to Isaiah Simmons?

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  1. BullheadCardFan

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    I believe you are correct.

    A quality DC would have figured out how to use him already.

    Time for VJ to make adjustments.
     
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    This was always the biggest concern with drafting Simmons. Vanilla Vance Joseph wouldn't be creative enough to know how to optimally utilize his skill set.
     
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    pretty hot take for rookie output with 8 quarters of football played. This thread should go quiet until November :cheers:
     
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    If you don't get it, you don't get it.

    25 snaps on the year over two games. 6'4 238 4.3 40 and Vanilla Vance isn't creative enough to find a place or role for him on the field.
     
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    yeah I guess I dont get it and will wait till later in the season to pass judgement.

    I'm not going to do the research but there are hundreds of 1st round prospects that played less than 25 snaps the first two games and went on to have a careers of 10+ years. HUNDREDS.
     
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    bottom video is dishonest. Mesh route that simmons had to duck around - its not just simmons getting burned. check his pad level in comparison to the receiver as TE 82 sets a pick. happens to every linebacker when a good route combo is put together.

    you're clearly entitled to an opinon but you guys are using absolutist lingo and 100% conviction after 2 WEEKS OF FOOTBALL. My opinion is that forming one this early on Simmons is not smart.
     
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    The opinion is not about Simmons, that is what you do not get. The opinion is about the Cardinals draft approach and the lack of creativity from our DC
     
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    I can read. you said its 100% the fault of coach and gm.

    It is not 100% on the coach and gm. I'd say its 45% on Simmons being a rookie and 45%% on COVID, no preseason, and the fact that its freaking September 23rd.

    maybe 10% is on the coach/gm. but hey, in this absolutist world I get why you're firing off takes with 100% conviction in week 2. sign of the times.
     
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    I dont blame Simmons at all actually.

    Other top rookies are struggling too tbh. Although on their end I guess its good they are getting a lot of snaps to play through it/get better.

    We're just counting on Vance to know what he's doing in terms of development. We'll see how it goes.
     
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    Simmons is the guy rushing that gets put on his butt, not the guy in coverage.

    With that said I agree with you everyone calling him a bust already is insane.
     
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    LOL. wow did I miss that one.
     
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    Again..these are the same arguments that have been posted on this board for years when it comes to the organization botching the draft or the implementation of those players drafted. If this was the first occurrence, I would find your arguement more valid.
     
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    One dude with like 30 posts is...hardly qualifies as "everyone" or even makes it a discussion point.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    If this were next year concern would be wholly merited.
     

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