What’s up with PR?

[Covert Rain]

When shutting down P&R becomes a desired outcome, irony is irrelevant.

I wouldn’t call it desired.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

I guess you missed the purposeful irony.

If it was one time i would find the irony but you have done it literally dozens of times. I'm sorry but I haven't been able to ever really take you or you intentions seriously. In my opinion you are intellectually dishonest and a waste of time to talk to.

You make things up, and you are a problem here.

Have a nice day.

 

[Covert Rain]

If it was one time i would find the irony but you have done it literally dozens of times. I'm sorry but I haven't been able to ever really take you or you intentions seriously. In my opinion you are intellectually dishonest and a waste of time to talk to.

You make things up, and you are a problem here.

Have a nice day.

The irony in your posts is off the charts. Literally out of everyone here I value your opinion or thoughts the least. You are factually challenged and that is being generous. Not to mention one of the biggest offenders and trolls on the board. You set a new bar for hypocrisy almost daily. Forgive me if I couldn’t care any less about what you think.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Is anyone else laughing at the irony of this thread? And I really do mean laughing, it's just so P&R of us.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Is anyone else laughing at the irony of this thread?

it's hilarious

 

[JohnnyCakes]

The irony in your posts is off the charts. Literally out of everyone here I value your opinion or thoughts the least. You are factually challenged and that is being generous. Not to mention one of the biggest offenders and trolls on the board. You set a new bar for hypocrisy almost daily. Forgive me if I couldn’t care any less about what you think.

Then stop trolling me after every post.

Be gone.

 

[Covert Rain]

Sorry guys for my part. I should have known better than to take the troll off ignore. I figured I would try to take everyone off my ignore list. I was being overly optimistic about a reset.

Back to the topic at hand. I wonder if we can do any testing of the add-on I posted? If this was work it would be easy. We could test it in Dev or test environments. The other forum I am helping has not had a chance to test it yet either.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

 

[JohnnyCakes]

I know, i mean the guy really is one of a kind. The pretentiousness knows no bounds.

BIM-- you and the other MODS have any idea if we could implement some type of rule where sources need to be actual sources and not random opinions from a social media platform? I feel like that would be a good start because it seems like many discussions seems to go out of control due to the validity of the source. It takes the conversation sideways

 

[Rivercard]

I wouldn’t call it desired.

Well, he has literally posted that P&R should be shut down.

 

[Rivercard]

Is anyone else laughing at the irony of this thread? And I really do mean laughing, it's just so P&R of us.

I think P&R is important to a lot of us, so kind of hard to sit idly by as it implodes. But ya, feeding the trolls again not good.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Well, he has literally posted that P&R should be shut down.

if it continues to be an echo chamber then yes what is the use.

Also many on the left have said it should as well.

 

[Mainstreet]

All we have to do is be polite to each other and act civilized.

No one is keeping score. There is no winner or loser except knowledge, and being rude closes minds.

Doesn't anyone care about the legacy they leave here?

Maybe pretend one is writing a book and this is what you leave posterity to read.

 

[Covert Rain]

All we have to do is be polite to each other and act civilized.

No one is keeping score. There is no winner or loser except knowledge, and being rude closes minds.

Doesn't anyone care about the legacy they leave here?

Maybe pretend one is writing a book and this is what you leave posterity to read.

Not true Main. You definitely scored with this post. Very insightful.

 

[Cardsmasochist]

I don’t want P&R shut down but it’s clear that is the goal our resident trolls. Hopefully we can come together and agree on a solution and it will open again.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

I am open to any solution

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I had this thought last night. No more day bans, week bans, etc. If you break the rules. You're out. Forever.

I would moderate it a little. But make the ban a true deterrent. A year ban. Then you’re allowed back in a short leash. If a years ban doesn’t teach you to curb your bad actions you’re likely hopeless.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I get the impression that the mods are just tired of all the drama and don’t want to deal with it anymore. So it’s probably going to remain shut down

That would stink

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I know, i mean the guy really is one of a kind. The pretentiousness knows no bounds.

BIM-- you and the other MODS have any idea if we could implement some type of rule where sources need to be actual sources and not random opinions from a social media platform? I feel like that would be a good start because it seems like many discussions seems to go out of control due to the validity of the source. It takes the conversation sideways

I get your intention but I don’t think this is a realistic ask of the mods. It then falls to them to define and police what is, and what is not, an acceptable source. We shouldn’t expect that of the mods.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

All we have to do is be polite to each other and act civilized.

No one is keeping score. There is no winner or loser except knowledge, and being rude closes minds.

Doesn't anyone care about the legacy they leave here?

Maybe pretend one is writing a book and this is what you leave posterity to read.

I agree with what you’re saying. The issue is that unlike talking sports, so many of the topics on P&R may have VERY scary, VERY personal, repercussions. It’s difficult to maintain a cool head when someone else’s opinion may put your life or rights at risk. That said, we are (presumably) all adults. We should (including myself) all be better about how we interact. I don’t mind someone teaching me something - particularly if my actions or perspective endanger another. I initially try to educate others regarding antisemitism as an example. But once I see that the education falls on deaf ears I just have to let it go. We all just have to learn to let it go. We can’t change everyone. Particularly on the internet. No matter how maddening or scary they might be to us and our loved ones.

 

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[Mainstreet]

I agree with what you’re saying. The issue is that unlike talking sports, so many of the topics on P&R may have VERY scary, VERY personal, repercussions. It’s difficult to maintain a cool head when someone else’s opinion may put your life or rights at risk. That said, we are (presumably) all adults. We should (including myself) all be better about how we interact. I don’t mind someone teaching me something - particularly if my actions or perspective endanger another. I initially try to educate others regarding antisemitism as an example. But once I see that the education falls on deaf ears I just have to let it go. We all just have to learn to let it go. We can’t change everyone. Particularly on the internet. No matter how maddening or scary they might be to us and our loved ones.

However, if we cannot articulate a counterargument without insulting another poster as a person, there will be no place to talk about P&R issues or make a point that needs to be made.

 

[Covert Rain]

I would moderate it a little. But make the ban a true deterrent. A year ban. Then you’re allowed back in a short leash. If a years ban doesn’t teach you to curb your bad actions you’re likely hopeless.

I think a month ban is sufficient. I mean if you have been gone for an entire month and the first thing you comeback and do is troll like some or our repeat offenders? It's likely hopeless long before a year time frame.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don’t want P&R shut down but it’s clear that is the goal our resident trolls. Hopefully we can come together and agree on a solution and it will open again.

I think as a mod I’d take anyone’s call for the P&R board to be shut down as insight into their true motivation. But that’s just me. I’d be skeptical regarding anyone’s inclusion in something they profess to want to eliminate.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

However, if we cannot articulate a counterargument without insulting another poster as a person, there will be no place to talk about P&R issues or make a point that needs to be made.

Agree. That’s why the board is more important to me than to have the ability to yell at someone else.