Week 14 Arizona Cardinals off season thread. 4/10/23-4/16/23

[Stout]

Elijah Wilkinson is probably the starting LG right now. He's been ok there in the past.

What a great "plan." Directed at the team, not you.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Yeah tackle is a need, but I wouldn't put it as a top five needs. More of a future need.

When the rest of your house is literally on fire, you're less concerned about a dirty rug in the living room!

 

[Zalixar]

When the rest of your house is literally on fire, you're less concerned about a dirty rug in the living room!

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[kerouac9]

I don't understand all the interest in OTs. We have Hump, Beachum and Jones and no one to start at LG or C.

Hump might be here in two years but who knows about the other two?

 

[Krangodnzr]

What a great "plan." Directed at the team, not you.

He's not a terrible player. He's pretty average.

The problem is, you can't have a good offensive line with a bunch of average players.

 

[Dayman]

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Smoke, fire, etc

 

[RON_IN_OC]

He's not a terrible player. He's pretty average.

The problem is, you can't have a good offensive line with a bunch of average players.

Actually, I think you can have a good o-line with 5 average players. We're used to have 1 above average, 1 maybe average, and 3 below average players and that doesn't work out well. 5 guys, all at the same average level, can be coached and be more cohesive as a unit, IMO.

 

[Stout]

Actually, I think you can have a good o-line with 5 average players. We're used to have 1 above average, 1 maybe average, and 3 below average players and that doesn't work out well. 5 guys, all at the same average level, can be coached and be more cohesive as a unit, IMO.

I'm going out on a limb, though, and saying we're below average at LG and C, maybe average at RG, and good enough of slightly better than average at the two tackle spots. So, far from good as of now.

 

[juza76]

I'm going out on a limb, though, and saying we're below average at LG and C, maybe average at RG, and good enough of slightly better than average at the two tackle spots. So, far from good as of now.

The only area we are not below average are the safeties

 

[DVontel]

It’s insane how badly Bidwill let Keim drive this team into the ground.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I'm going out on a limb, though, and saying we're below average at LG and C, maybe average at RG, and good enough of slightly better than average at the two tackle spots. So, far from good as of now.

I'm more generous on Hernandez. Humphries is slightly above average, Beachum average-ish. Wilkinson has been an average player.

Center is an abyss of despair.

To overcome that abyss of despair, you probably need two elite players around the center and that's not the case right now.

 

[Redsz]

I don't understand all the interest in OTs. We have Hump, Beachum and Jones and no one to start at LG or C.

Pugh might be coming back based on his twitter.

 

[GatorAZ]

It’s insane how badly Bidwill let Keim drive this team into the ground.

Starting to sound more and more like Bidwill was the actual GM and Keim just enjoyed the title. And by enjoyed you know what I mean.

 

[Chopper0080]

James Conner and Zach Ertz are the faces of the 2023 Arizona Cardinals.

How embarrassing.

The Patriot/Texans Way

 

[Chopper0080]

Yeah tackle is a need, but I wouldn't put it as a top five needs. More of a future need.

With how this organization is operating right now, who knows.

 

[Chopper0080]

Actually, I think you can have a good o-line with 5 average players. We're used to have 1 above average, 1 maybe average, and 3 below average players and that doesn't work out well. 5 guys, all at the same average level, can be coached and be more cohesive as a unit, IMO.

No. Five league average guys doesn't make a "good" offensive line. It may not even make an average offensive line.

 

[CardsFan88]

Houston had Deshaun Watson playing at an MVP level on an extension and he was so disgusted by what the organization was doing he walked away.

It could just as easily happen here.

Given his off-the-field proclivities, that's a high bar.

 

[Goodyear Card]

Pugh might be coming back based on his twitter.

I really hope not. He is done. His body can't hold up to 17 game NFL schedule.

 

[QuebecCard]

He's not a terrible player. He's pretty average.

The problem is, you can't have a good offensive line with a bunch of average players.

It's the sum of the parts.

So, yes, you can have an above-average line with average talent given good coaching.

 

[MadCardDisease]

That isn't shocking. They have either approached him about a pay cut or informed him they are shopping him. He was a cut candidate after this season anyways.

Wrong, Wrong and Wrong.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

No. Five league average guys doesn't make a "good" offensive line. It may not even make an average offensive line.

Agree to disagree...We've seen it before, even within our own division. Seattle has often had a bunch of street free agents playing offensive line (occasionally they have 1 household name, like Okung). Everybody questions them in the off-season and maybe early in the season they don't look very good, then all of a sudden they end up running the ball down everyone's throat and dominating.

 

[Dayman]

The bar for this team has been set so low it's about to go subterranean.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Agree to disagree...We've seen it before, even within our own division. Seattle has often had a bunch of street free agents playing offensive line (occasionally they have 1 household name, like Okung). Everybody questions them in the off-season and maybe early in the season they don't look very good, then all of a sudden they end up running the ball down everyone's throat and dominating.

Right...but they had Okung and Unger who were both pretty good players.

 

[Chopper0080]

Wrong, Wrong and Wrong.

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[Chopper0080]

Agree to disagree...We've seen it before, even within our own division. Seattle has often had a bunch of street free agents playing offensive line (occasionally they have 1 household name, like Okung). Everybody questions them in the off-season and maybe early in the season they don't look very good, then all of a sudden they end up running the ball down everyone's throat and dominating.

When is the last time we saw this?