We Might Not Suck

[mel typer]

Not looking to win the Superbowl they should name the stadium after a church. People going to be screaming "Jesus Christ"!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

they're so strong

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I dont think we will suck this season.
But I do think we will be a somewhat above average team in the toughest division in football and lacking a star QB

Anything between 4-13 and 13-4 is possible.
But I'm guessing 7-10 to 10-7 is our range

This shocking to me.

 

[oaken1]

This shocking to me.

why?

 

[Totally_Red]

why?

7-10 on the low end is pretty high. I put the range at 5-12 to 10-7.
10-7 means a lot breaks right, like MHJ comes to play in season 3, Jeremiyah Love is offensive rookie of the year, minimal injuries, etc.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

This shocking to me.

Rookie coach, no legit starter at QB, same DC that sucked, same oline coach that sucked, team won 3 games last year, cardinals.

 

[HerefortheCards]

Rookie coach, no legit starter at QB, same DC that sucked, same oline coach that sucked, team won 3 games last year, cardinals.

So you’re saying there’s a chance!!

 

[Goldfield]

Rookie coach, no legit starter at QB, same DC that sucked, same oline coach that sucked, team won 3 games last year, cardinals.

But it’s not the same Oline we have 3/5 new starters. Rookie coach may still be an upgrade from Gannon. Agree on DC 100%

 

[PDXChris]

JB has started more than 10 times in a season 4 times out of this 10 year career with 16 total wins in those 4 season for 4 wins a season. His best was 7 wins when he took over for Andrew Luck in 2019 when he abruptly retired. Luck won 10 games with the same roster on offense the previous year. He also set a career high for INTs and will be 35 during the season. If JB is starts most of the season, we are not going to be good.

 

[kerouac9]

If JB is starts most of the season, we are not going to be good.

Yes but the question is whether we will suck, and I think that’s fairly unlikely barring major injuries and terrible luck in one-score games.

I have the Cards over 5.5 wins and feel pretty good about it. The Dolphins won seven Games last year.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I think the Cards can do both...Not Suck and also Not Win a lot of games....and I'm fine with that.

I'd like to see the following:

A) The offense look good and cohesive
B) The defense make some plays and just not get blown out wéekly.
C) Carson Beck get a chance and show enough that Monti doesn't think he has to waste a pick on trash like Arch Manning (I said what I said). I'd much rather see more picks used at OL, DL and other skill positions.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

JB has started more than 10 times in a season 4 times out of this 10 year career with 16 total wins in those 4 season for 4 wins a season. His best was 7 wins when he took over for Andrew Luck in 2019 when he abruptly retired. Luck won 10 games with the same roster on offense the previous year. He also set a career high for INTs and will be 35 during the season. If JB is starts most of the season, we are not going to be good.

This is the exact reason I'm cutting bait with JB and rolling with Beck...or at worst, let Minshew start the first 4, then give way to Beck.

 

[PDXChris]

Yes but the question is whether we will suck, and I think that’s fairly unlikely barring major injuries and terrible luck in one-score games.

I have the Cards over 5.5 wins and feel pretty good about it. The Dolphins won seven Games last year.

That feels reasonable. Some folks thinking 11 wins is something else though, unless Beck turns into Russell Wilson 2.0.

 

[PDXChris]

This is the exact reason I'm cutting bait with JB and rolling with Beck...or at worst, let Minshew start the first 4, then give way to Beck.

I'd honestly like to see Beck start day 1.

 

[some dumb guy]

That feels reasonable. Some folks thinking 11 wins is something else though, unless Beck turns into Russell Wilson 2.0.

That's pretty close, Beck looks to be twice the size of Wilson...

 

[some dumb guy]

I'd honestly like to see Beck start day 1.

How many players admit to the game finally slowing down for them after one or two years. That's why you don't throw a rookie QB in the first year unless he wins it in camp. Even if it takes a few games to see which cardinals team shows up this year. And I think it's going to be better than expected

 

[kerouac9]

I'd honestly like to see Beck start day 1.

That’s most likely to ensure we do suck. I think both Brissett and Minshew are better week one starters than Carson Beck.

You have to give the other players on the roster (and your #3 overall pick) a chance to succeed. Thats not with Beck.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

That’s most likely to ensure we do suck. I think both Brissett and Minshew are better week one starters than Carson Beck.

You have to give the other players on the roster (and your #3 overall pick) a chance to succeed. Thats not with Beck.

NFL game speed is so much faster that college

He should sit for a while and see how JB or GM process the game from the sidelines and the film room

He needs to be able to read the defense before taking the field

 

[PDXChris]

NFL game speed is so much faster that college

He should sit for a while and see how JB or GM process the game from the sidelines and the film room

He needs to be able to read the defense before taking the field

He played 55 college games and will be 25 just after the season starts. At this point, either he has it or he doesn't. The last 3rd round pick to have instant success played in 50 college games and is two weeks younger than Carson when they were drafted. He needs to play to see if we need to go QB next year. No way you waste this year and them pass on a top QB next year without knowing what you got.

 

[some dumb guy]

He played 55 college games and will be 25 just after the season starts. At this point, either he has it or he doesn't. The last 3rd round pick to have instant success played in 50 college games and is two weeks younger than Carson when they were drafted. He needs to play to see if we need to go QB next year. No way you waste this year and them pass on a top QB next year without knowing what you got.

I agree, he either has it or he doesn't. The number of games he played in college means nothing. He's now going to the NFL, which means the players that make the practice squad are better than 95% of the players he went against in college. There's a reason players admit the game has finally slowed down for them. Beck might toss a pass out to the flat that's routine in college but now it's a pick 6 because the defender covered 15 yds faster than his pass did. We'll see how it all plays out come August. JMO

 

[kerouac9]

needs to play to see if we need to go QB next year.

The coaches will see hundreds of camp and practice reps that will let them know much more than we will.

 

[PDXChris]

The coaches will see hundreds of camp and practice reps that will let them know much more than we will.

Like Kurt Warner? Or how Eli Manning was so bad in his first training camp, the Giants were worried?l and was notorious for being bad in practice?

 

[kerouac9]

Like Kurt Warner? Or how Eli Manning was so bad in his first training camp, the Giants were worried?l and was notorious for being bad in practice?

If that’s the case we can wait until week six to find out.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

But it’s not the same Oline we have 3/5 new starters. Rookie coach may still be an upgrade from Gannon. Agree on DC 100%

I didn’t claim it was the same oline. Just the same line coach who turned a virtually identical successful oline from the previous season into a train wreck.

 

[Redsz]

There is a better than average chance that we do indeed suck this year. My expectations are low.