Ty Simpson declares for the 2026 NFL draft

[kerouac9]

I look at Brock Purdy and think, if that is what that skill set can produce in the NFL why wouldn't I spend a 2nd round pick trying to get it?

Very similar to Love or Mauigoa at 3. Ideally, you wouldn't spend a 3rd overall pick on a RT or a RB, but sometimes you have to overspend to have a chance to get the productivity you want.

With Simpson, a 2nd rounder might be an overspend, but is probably worth the risk to try and get a QB.

What if we pass on the next BJ Ojulari or Max Melton tho??? HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE OPPORTUNITY COST??

 

[Goldfield]

It's hilarious to me that you look at a QB who is an old prospect with very few games played, but who people somehow want to take high in the 1st round because of his dad and his dad's influence. Haven't we had enough of the "But his dad will help him" in our QB room? Have we learned no lesson here?

When you have a kid who's one big thing is because of his dad and not, you know, the QB himself, that should be a big red flag, of which he has several.

Nah has nothing to do with his dad. The old argument is pointless when we’re taking about the most important position in football. It’s hard enough to get a good qb can’t be too picky. Good QBs play to their 40’s.

 

[Goldfield]

Because teams will take risks and pick poorly. Doesn't mean he should have been taken 1 overall.

Correct I wanted Kyler but not at 1

I want Simpson but not at 3

 

[Chopper0080]

Because teams will take risks and pick poorly. Doesn't mean he should have been taken 1 overall.

Even as much of a critic I have been on Kyler, I don't think the BIG mistake was taking him 1 overall.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Even as much of a critic I have been on Kyler, I don't think the BIG mistake was taking him 1 overall.

it was taking him period

 

[Harry]

Even as much of a critic I have been on Kyler, I don't think the BIG mistake was taking him 1 overall.

It was Kingsbury’s misconception of Murray’s ability. Not so much that Murray couldn’t have been good, but rather Kingsbury’s assumption Murray didn’t need an OL. Insanity! Kingsbury let Murray get beat up and ruined any chance of his success. I’m not sure Murray could have been great, but with the right team around him he might have been effective.

 

[kerouac9]

It was Kingsbury’s misconception of Murray’s ability. Not so much that Murray couldn’t have been good, but rather Kingsbury’s assumption Murray didn’t need an OL. Insanity! Kingsbury let Murray get beat up and ruined any chance of his success. I’m not sure Murray could have been great, but with the right team around him he might have been effective.

It’s wild to think Kliff Kingsbury had any personnel control at all during his time here.

 

[some dumb guy]

It’s wild to think Kliff Kingsbury had any personnel control at all during his time here.

100%, there's no way Kliffy was maintaining that yard, pool and cleaning that house showcased during the draft...LOL

 

[Denny Green Fan]

100%, there's no way Kliffy was maintaining that yard, pool and cleaning that house showcased during the draft...LOL

And have time to take care of that lil hottie he had

 

[dreamcastrocks]

It’s wild to think Kliff Kingsbury had any personnel control at all during his time here.

I personally think it is wild to say that he didn't have any influence in the KM pick. He was basically hand picked by him from the beginning.

 

[kerouac9]

I personally think it is wild to say that he didn't have any influence in the KM pick. He was basically hand picked by him from the beginning.

People are free to believe this but that’s never been the story from Hardy Drive and not even Kyle Odegaard believes it.

 

[BulldogCard]

We need to trade up with the Boys at 15...Jets will take him at 16

 

[Stout]

Nah has nothing to do with his dad. The old argument is pointless when we’re taking about the most important position in football. It’s hard enough to get a good qb can’t be too picky. Good QBs play to their 40’s.

Oh but it does. Folks have raved about the "football culture" he grew up in and how his father's job has helped him learn to be a QB and blah blah blah.

Uh, I would say you absolutely should be picky taking a QB in the 1st round. Taking one just to take one is nuts.

 

[BulldogCard]

We need to trade up with the Boys at 15...Jets will take him at 16

He had to throw with no running game, and his stats look pro.

 

[Adrian]

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Arizona is projected to trade back into Round 1 for Ty Simpson

Is this the right landing spot for the Alabama QB?

 

[Adrian]

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[Chopper0080]

It was Kingsbury’s misconception of Murray’s ability. Not so much that Murray couldn’t have been good, but rather Kingsbury’s assumption Murray didn’t need an OL. Insanity! Kingsbury let Murray get beat up and ruined any chance of his success. I’m not sure Murray could have been great, but with the right team around him he might have been effective.

I disagree with this. Kliff's biggest issue was not coaching Kyler harder in the beginning. He just didn't emphasize the details, wasn't critical, and didn't emphasize the need to be self critical. Not saying he needed to yell at him, but there needed to be more demands and less comfort.

Good QBs protect themselves for the most part so I don't put that on Kliff. It was a quick paced offense which was designed to go fast, be simple and take advantage of mismatches. Kyler was given a good running game.

We will see what Kyler does in Minnesota but IMO it was shared failure in AZ.

The big mistake was the contract extension.

 

[oaken1]

I disagree with this. Kliff's biggest issue was not coaching Kyler harder in the beginning. He just didn't emphasize the details, wasn't critical, and didn't emphasize the need to be self critical. Not saying he needed to yell at him, but there needed to be more demands and less comfort.

Good QBs protect themselves for the most part so I don't put that on Kliff. It was a quick paced offense which was designed to go fast, be simple and take advantage of mismatches. Kyler was given a good running game.

We will see what Kyler does in Minnesota but IMO it was shared failure in AZ.

The big mistake was the contract extension.

"Calm the F down"

 

[oaken1]

The lack of early discipline totally ruined that player/coach dynamic

 

[Harry]

I disagree with this. Kliff's biggest issue was not coaching Kyler harder in the beginning. He just didn't emphasize the details, wasn't critical, and didn't emphasize the need to be self critical. Not saying he needed to yell at him, but there needed to be more demands and less comfort.

Good QBs protect themselves for the most part so I don't put that on Kliff. It was a quick paced offense which was designed to go fast, be simple and take advantage of mismatches. Kyler was given a good running game.

We will see what Kyler does in Minnesota but IMO it was shared failure in AZ.

The big mistake was the contract extension.

I agree on not being tough on Murray. I totally disagree on the rest. I characterized Murray’s play as Football PTSD. He literally didn’t know how to protect himself except that little fishhook escape. The playoff wild throw and the more recent grounding penalty for a throw with his back to the line showed how panicked he was. He didn’t enter the league scared; he developed that. Certainly he need much tougher coaching on the mechanics, but bad mechanics didn’t cause him to be intimidated. He’s needed to be confident in a secure pocket, but he rarely had that. Kingsbury wildly overestimated Murray’s escapability skills. The result was Murray was constantly crushed.

 

[kerouac9]

The result was Murray was constantly crushed.

This is just false.

 

[Goldfield]

Oh but it does. Folks have raved about the "football culture" he grew up in and how his father's job has helped him learn to be a QB and blah blah blah.

Uh, I would say you absolutely should be picky taking a QB in the 1st round. Taking one just to take one is nuts.

I didn’t even know about the dad thing so

 

[Goldfield]

I disagree with this. Kliff's biggest issue was not coaching Kyler harder in the beginning. He just didn't emphasize the details, wasn't critical, and didn't emphasize the need to be self critical. Not saying he needed to yell at him, but there needed to be more demands and less comfort.

Good QBs protect themselves for the most part so I don't put that on Kliff. It was a quick paced offense which was designed to go fast, be simple and take advantage of mismatches. Kyler was given a good running game.

We will see what Kyler does in Minnesota but IMO it was shared failure in AZ.

The big mistake was the contract extension.

Never should have got that contract or any of them(Kiem Kliff). But Kyler stopped using his legs. He was special because of his legs. You don’t draft a short QB that won’t run.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

yes less but still undersized. You really want 6'3 to 6'7

Dan McGwire
Mike Glennon
Brick Osweiller
Paxton Lynch
Jared Larenzen (RIP)

Say you do not want a 6'7" QB.

There has never been a successful one. In face, if you also count 6'6" QBs to play in NFL, you can find sub 6' QBs who have had same or even more success than them.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Allar = Skelton

He might not be as good as John skeleton.