Ty Simpson declares for the 2026 NFL draft

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I don’t think many QBs in the history of football will lift a team with an atrocious running game for an entire season. I think you are completely overlooking how hard it is to run a functional offense like that in a game, let alone a season.
I get that. I was answering Krang's slanted post by slanting it the other way. It is rather unfair to praise him glowingly for some games but then excuse him fully for other ones. Like I said, we're the cards. He's not going to have that support here. Why should we expect him to be good for us?
 

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I get that. I was answering Krang's slanted post by slanting it the other way. It is rather unfair to praise him glowingly for some games but then excuse him fully for other ones. Like I said, we're the cards. He's not going to have that support here. Why should we expect him to be good for us?
Nothing slanted about it. I was answering the post about what he does well, and then, what was the appeal. Obviously that's going to talk about the good things about Simpson.

"Stout, what's your favorite beer?"

"STOUT: I hate Heineken, it tastes skunky"

Yeah no..nobody will ever answer a post asking what's the appeal of a player by talking about the downsides. There are obvious downsides or he would be a consideration at 3. He is older, hasn't started that many years, and his play fell off down the stretch. That's the downside.
 

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Nothing slanted about it. I was answering the post about what he does well, and then, what was the appeal. Obviously that's going to talk about the good things about Simpson.

"Stout, what's your favorite beer?"

"STOUT: I hate Heineken, it tastes skunky"

Yeah no..nobody will ever answer a post asking what's the appeal of a player by talking about the downsides. There are obvious downsides or he would be a consideration at 3. He is older, hasn't started that many years, and his play fell off down the stretch. That's the downside.
I was responding to certainty of the post. Your opinions were presented as facts.
 

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Milroe and Simpson are the same age.

Simpson lost the job on merit.
Milroe was a junior when he became the starter over sophomore Ty Simpson. Milroe played in eight games the year before. In 2024, Kalen DeBoer came in as new head coach at a time where Milroe had led Alabama to the SEC Championship the year before as well as clearly fit better in DeBoer’s preferred system (read a bit about how DeBoer compare Michael Penix – his starting QB at Washington – and Milroe).

There was no QB competition. It was obvious from day one that Milroe would be the starter, no matter if he or Simpson were most talented.
 

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I was responding to certainty of the post. Your opinions were presented as facts.
I also won't be shocked if we see Simpson get the proverbial draft day slide either. Every year there is a guy that goes either shockingly high or slides to round four.

My bet this year is that Simpson might be that guy because of his lack of PT.
 

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I also won't be shocked if we see Simpson get the proverbial draft day slide either. Every year there is a guy that goes either shockingly high or slides to round four.

My bet this year is that Simpson might be that guy because of his lack of PT.
I've been thinking the same. I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't the 2nd QB taken. I can see the Jets taking their QB in the 2nd round, and Simpson may not be the guy.

Or someone takes him in the first. You never know.
 

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I often see that argument. It doesn’t make sense since NCAA is not the same as the NFL. For example, experience matters a lot more for many reasons, and coaches trust older quarterbacks a lot more. Things like mental processing, understanding of schemes, working under pressure in big stadiums with many thousands that want you to fail. The players are basically big children. Other factors than only talent play a role.
Nah...
Coaches want/need the rep of putting guys into the nfl. So they play the guy that's coming up on the draft hoping another season gets him into round 1
They know the younger backup has no choice but to wait or he risks ruining his draft chances if he portals to a crap team.

They will only bench the older kid if the underclassmen is far better
 

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Milroe was a junior when he became the starter over sophomore Ty Simpson. Milroe played in eight games the year before. In 2024, Kalen DeBoer came in as new head coach at a time where Milroe had led Alabama to the SEC Championship the year before as well as clearly fit better in DeBoer’s preferred system (read a bit about how DeBoer compare Michael Penix – his starting QB at Washington – and Milroe).

There was no QB competition. It was obvious from day one that Milroe would be the starter, no matter if he or Simpson were most talented.
Plus with all the NIL and endorsements Milroe had there was no way they would be allowed to bench him. He was the top paid qb that year
 

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I get that. I was answering Krang's slanted post by slanting it the other way. It is rather unfair to praise him glowingly for some games but then excuse him fully for other ones. Like I said, we're the cards. He's not going to have that support here. Why should we expect him to be good for us?
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He seems like a total reach. I know montis job is on the line this season - but I really hope he is not allowed to trade any 2027 draft capital
Gah, if he's trading 2027 draft capital on getting Simpson, it isn't the benign "But if he doesn't work out there's always the 2027 draft" situation some posters are positing.
 

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Chris Weinke won a national title.

I'm not Weinke guy, but when we are comparing a player to Weinke and he fails the Weinke test... it's a bad sign.
Stats people love to talk about stats if there’s no winning.

It’s a symptom of everybody gets a medal doesn’t matter how if you win or not it’s just oh did you play well or did you put up big numbers?

What’s crazy is that in Simpson’s case he hasn’t done either he hasn’t won and he hasn’t played well, but we should draft him because of reasons.
 

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I’m getting buried withSimpson predictions, though scenarios differ. Good point on Simpson’s height concerns. Guys who read defenses well fare better with height issues than the great athlete type unless the latter learns how to understand the defense.
 

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The Athletic's Ted Nguyen published an article last week, "Ty Simpson film review: Is the Alabama QB worthy of a first-round NFL Draft pick?". Gemini summarized the article thusly:

While he is widely considered the No. 2 quarterback in the class behind Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza, Ty Simpson's draft stock is a subject of intense debate due to a season of two halves and physical red flags.

Arguments for a First-Round Pick​

  • Pro-Style Readiness: Simpson played in a sophisticated passing system under offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb. Scouts value his ability to execute NFL-style concepts, particularly his aggressiveness and accuracy when throwing into tight windows over the middle of the field.
  • Early Season Dominance: Through his first eight games, Simpson posted elite numbers (20 touchdowns to one interception) and a high EPA per drop-back. Proponents argue this "peak" version of Simpson—before illness and injury took hold—is the true indicator of his NFL potential.
  • High Floor: He is described as a fundamentally sound "coach's son" with a high football IQ and the pre-snap processing abilities required to manage a professional offense.

Arguments Against a First-Round Pick​

  • Size and Durability: Measuring just over 6-foot-1 and 211 pounds, Simpson falls into the lower percentiles for NFL quarterbacks. Critics point to his late-season struggle with gastritis (which caused a 20-pound weight loss) and a season-ending rib injury as evidence that his frame may not withstand NFL physicality.
  • Lack of Experience: With only 15 collegiate starts, Simpson is viewed by some as an unfinished product. Historically, quarterbacks with such limited starting experience face a steep learning curve in the pros.
  • Performance Volatility: His play declined significantly in the final seven games of the season. While some attribute this to health issues and a lack of a supporting run game at Alabama, others worry he struggled as opposing defenses gathered more film on him.
  • Physical Limitations: Unlike other "undersized" successful quarterbacks (like Kyler Murray or Michael Vick), Simpson is primarily a pocket passer rather than an elite scrambler, making him a statistical outlier if he is to succeed at the next level.
Ultimately, the author, Ted Nguyen, concludes that while Simpson's mental processing gives him a safe floor, his physical limitations and lack of experience make him more of a third-round talent who might only be pushed into the late first or second round due to a weak overall quarterback class.
 

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The Athletic's Ted Nguyen published an article last week, "Ty Simpson film review: Is the Alabama QB worthy of a first-round NFL Draft pick?". Gemini summarized the article thusly:

While he is widely considered the No. 2 quarterback in the class behind Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza, Ty Simpson's draft stock is a subject of intense debate due to a season of two halves and physical red flags.

Arguments for a First-Round Pick​

  • Pro-Style Readiness: Simpson played in a sophisticated passing system under offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb. Scouts value his ability to execute NFL-style concepts, particularly his aggressiveness and accuracy when throwing into tight windows over the middle of the field.
  • Early Season Dominance: Through his first eight games, Simpson posted elite numbers (20 touchdowns to one interception) and a high EPA per drop-back. Proponents argue this "peak" version of Simpson—before illness and injury took hold—is the true indicator of his NFL potential.
  • High Floor: He is described as a fundamentally sound "coach's son" with a high football IQ and the pre-snap processing abilities required to manage a professional offense.

Arguments Against a First-Round Pick​

  • Size and Durability: Measuring just over 6-foot-1 and 211 pounds, Simpson falls into the lower percentiles for NFL quarterbacks. Critics point to his late-season struggle with gastritis (which caused a 20-pound weight loss) and a season-ending rib injury as evidence that his frame may not withstand NFL physicality.
  • Lack of Experience: With only 15 collegiate starts, Simpson is viewed by some as an unfinished product. Historically, quarterbacks with such limited starting experience face a steep learning curve in the pros.
  • Performance Volatility: His play declined significantly in the final seven games of the season. While some attribute this to health issues and a lack of a supporting run game at Alabama, others worry he struggled as opposing defenses gathered more film on him.
  • Physical Limitations: Unlike other "undersized" successful quarterbacks (like Kyler Murray or Michael Vick), Simpson is primarily a pocket passer rather than an elite scrambler, making him a statistical outlier if he is to succeed at the next level.
Ultimately, the author, Ted Nguyen, concludes that while Simpson's mental processing gives him a safe floor, his physical limitations and lack of experience make him more of a third-round talent who might only be pushed into the late first or second round due to a weak overall quarterback class.
This guy must not know ball because he sees Simpson as a gamble and project.

He should talk to some of our posters. They know Simpson is great.
 

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This guy must not know ball because he sees Simpson as a gamble and project.

He should talk to some of our posters. They know Simpson is great.
can you talk football without talking ish about posters? you don't even name anyone particular - stop trying to turn your kyler frustrations into confrontation - it's tired af
 

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The Athletic's Ted Nguyen published an article last week, "Ty Simpson film review: Is the Alabama QB worthy of a first-round NFL Draft pick?". Gemini summarized the article thusly:

While he is widely considered the No. 2 quarterback in the class behind Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza, Ty Simpson's draft stock is a subject of intense debate due to a season of two halves and physical red flags.

Arguments for a First-Round Pick​

  • Pro-Style Readiness: Simpson played in a sophisticated passing system under offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb. Scouts value his ability to execute NFL-style concepts, particularly his aggressiveness and accuracy when throwing into tight windows over the middle of the field.
  • Early Season Dominance: Through his first eight games, Simpson posted elite numbers (20 touchdowns to one interception) and a high EPA per drop-back. Proponents argue this "peak" version of Simpson—before illness and injury took hold—is the true indicator of his NFL potential.
  • High Floor: He is described as a fundamentally sound "coach's son" with a high football IQ and the pre-snap processing abilities required to manage a professional offense.

Arguments Against a First-Round Pick​

  • Size and Durability: Measuring just over 6-foot-1 and 211 pounds, Simpson falls into the lower percentiles for NFL quarterbacks. Critics point to his late-season struggle with gastritis (which caused a 20-pound weight loss) and a season-ending rib injury as evidence that his frame may not withstand NFL physicality.
  • Lack of Experience: With only 15 collegiate starts, Simpson is viewed by some as an unfinished product. Historically, quarterbacks with such limited starting experience face a steep learning curve in the pros.
  • Performance Volatility: His play declined significantly in the final seven games of the season. While some attribute this to health issues and a lack of a supporting run game at Alabama, others worry he struggled as opposing defenses gathered more film on him.
  • Physical Limitations: Unlike other "undersized" successful quarterbacks (like Kyler Murray or Michael Vick), Simpson is primarily a pocket passer rather than an elite scrambler, making him a statistical outlier if he is to succeed at the next level.
Ultimately, the author, Ted Nguyen, concludes that while Simpson's mental processing gives him a safe floor, his physical limitations and lack of experience make him more of a third-round talent who might only be pushed into the late first or second round due to a weak overall quarterback class.

Fair report.

I’d toss in “low ceiling” too.

Late day 2 pick is reasonable.

He’s going to go much earlier than that because someone will be desperate and foolish, I hope it’s not us.
 

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