Ty Simpson declares for the 2026 NFL draft

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He is homeless man’s mac Jones.

If you put his measurable, his stats, his results on a QB on 95% of other programs, he’s not in conversations.

And it’s not like recent high drafted Alabama QBs have thrived in the NFL (outside of the tush push) and he’s got the worst college resume of any of them by miles.
 

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He is homeless man’s mac Jones.

If you put his measurable, his stats, his results on a QB on 95% of other programs, he’s not in conversations.

And it’s not like recent high drafted Alabama QBs have thrived in the NFL (outside of the tush push) and he’s got the worst college resume of any of them by miles.
I’m starting to think your not a fan of Simpson
 

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This is what is going to happen:

We refuse to trade up for Simpson with our second pick.

A team drafts him, he becomes a good QB in this league with that team.

I get lied to about how next years class is so much better.

We draft a QB in the 2027 class that everyone here loves, only for him to be middling, while Simpson is flourishing.
 

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The biggest indicator that Bama isn’t Bama anymore is them getting thrashed on the ground. Saban or Bear aren’t walking thru that door.
Or everyone else just was agble to do what they did and pay players.

Saban got punked his final years at Bama. He was just lucky enough that the committee gave theme the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Because he couldn't beat Jalen Milroe for the job!
I often see that argument. It doesn’t make sense since NCAA is not the same as the NFL. For example, experience matters a lot more for many reasons, and coaches trust older quarterbacks a lot more. Things like mental processing, understanding of schemes, working under pressure in big stadiums with many thousands that want you to fail. The players are basically big children. Other factors than only talent play a role.
 

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This is what is going to happen:

We refuse to trade up for Simpson with our second pick.

A team drafts him, he becomes a good QB in this league with that team.

I get lied to about how next years class is so much better.

We draft a QB in the 2027 class that everyone here loves, only for him to be middling, while Simpson is flourishing.
This could happen.

I also haven’t seen a really good argument from anyone here that wants to take him why he’s a stud.
 

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I often see that argument. It doesn’t make sense since NCAA is not the same as the NFL. For example, experience matters a lot more for many reasons, and coaches trust older quarterbacks a lot more. Things like mental processing, understanding of schemes, working under pressure in big stadiums with many thousands that want you to fail. The players are basically big children. Other factors than only talent play a role.
True. Also true, coaches want that youngster to prosper because they’ll likely get two, maybe three, years out of them. They also want to win. So they’ll play the QB that gives them the best chance to do so. Particularly at Alabama where fans won’t tolerate much, if any, losing. Pressure is on coach. Need to win. Need to play kid who gives you best chance to do so.
 

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What I dislike about highlight films is it shows 1 side of the story. You have to watch the lowlights and midlights too. How does he manage the offense, make sure players are set, what happens when he’s flushed out of the pocket, does he climb the pocket for outside pressure, what was he looking at on certain INTs, etc. Kyler has an awesome highlight reel for the past 2 seasons, how well did we do though? He was mid at best but had great highlights.
 

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This could happen.

I also haven’t seen a really good argument from anyone here that wants to take him why he’s a stud.
He's got elite processing ability according to everyone around him, and this was noted in his interviews. He's really good at throwing over the middle of the field (a staple of the Shanna-Vay system). He has good, not great, arm strength and is a decent athlete moving around the pocket. He's a really good rhythm passer.
 

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This could happen.

I also haven’t seen a really good argument from anyone here that wants to take him why he’s a stud.
One more thing: he's a really good developmental prospect. He had a GREAT stretch to start the year, but his team around him fell apart down the stretch, and he definitely struggled.

But the mental aspects seem to be there and he would be a good little gamble for a coach that has a pretty QB friendly system. I'd draft him and plan for him to start maybe halfway through the year so that you either see that you have your QB or you know you need to draft one.

One of the big mistakes the Cardinals have made over the years is NOT drafting QBs regularly in round one or two. Don't settle when you have QB questions, start drafting until you find a guy.
 

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One more thing: he's a really good developmental prospect. He had a GREAT stretch to start the year, but his team around him fell apart down the stretch, and he definitely struggled.

But the mental aspects seem to be there and he would be a good little gamble for a coach that has a pretty QB friendly system. I'd draft him and plan for him to start maybe halfway through the year so that you either see that you have your QB or you know you need to draft one.

One of the big mistakes the Cardinals have made over the years is NOT drafting QBs regularly in round one or two. Don't settle when you have QB questions, start drafting until you find a guy.
Well, that's a way of viewing him. He MIGHT be a really good developmental prospect. We don't really know yet. Also, you are attributing everything to the team around him failing, and not attributing any responsibility to the most important player on the team. One thing he didn't show is that he is the guy that lifts a team around him; he needs the top talent to be around him to succeed. That might've improved with more playing time, or it may not have. He's also a really old prospect to be considered developmental.

I know I'm coloring it against Simpson, just as your post is heavily slanted in his favor. IMO he is an awful gamble for a team that needs top tier QB talent to help lift the team out of the mire. That's why I'd go a bit later in the draft and target a traits guy.
 

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One more thing: he's a really good developmental prospect. He had a GREAT stretch to start the year, but his team around him fell apart down the stretch, and he definitely struggled.

But the mental aspects seem to be there and he would be a good little gamble for a coach that has a pretty QB friendly system. I'd draft him and plan for him to start maybe halfway through the year so that you either see that you have your QB or you know you need to draft one.

One of the big mistakes the Cardinals have made over the years is NOT drafting QBs regularly in round one or two. Don't settle when you have QB questions, start drafting until you find a guy.
Hes 24 of course he has good mental processing. He is lightyears ahead of the typical 22 yr old college QB phenom because he has been in the system forever.

Dude can rent a car as well due to his age.

This love affair with old college QBs is ridiculous.
 

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One thing he didn't show is that he is the guy that lifts a team around him; he needs the top talent to be around him to succeed.
I don’t think many QBs in the history of football will lift a team with an atrocious running game for an entire season. I think you are completely overlooking how hard it is to run a functional offense like that in a game, let alone a season.
 

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I often see that argument. It doesn’t make sense since NCAA is not the same as the NFL. For example, experience matters a lot more for many reasons, and coaches trust older quarterbacks a lot more. Things like mental processing, understanding of schemes, working under pressure in big stadiums with many thousands that want you to fail. The players are basically big children. Other factors than only talent play a role.


Milroe and Simpson are the same age.

Simpson lost the job on merit.
 

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One more thing: he's a really good developmental prospect. He had a GREAT stretch to start the year, but his team around him fell apart down the stretch, and he definitely struggled.

But the mental aspects seem to be there and he would be a good little gamble for a coach that has a pretty QB friendly system. I'd draft him and plan for him to start maybe halfway through the year so that you either see that you have your QB or you know you need to draft one.

One of the big mistakes the Cardinals have made over the years is NOT drafting QBs regularly in round one or two. Don't settle when you have QB questions, start drafting until you find a guy.

Developmental prospect?! He is one of the oldest QBs in the draft.

And great stretch to start the year? They lost to a terrible Florida State team to open the season, falling behind 7-24.

He had a good first half... of a GAME against Georgia, pulling ahead big early then then clinging on for dear life.

After that, he largely struggled or flat out sucked in big games, including a Georgia rematch where the Tide scored 7 points total.

I cannot think of a single obvious "plus" in his scouting report.

The hype around this guy is breaking my brain.

I don't see any justification for it whatsoever.
 

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Yo, I got this QB, 1st round, you gotta take him.

"Oh yeah? How'd he do in college?"

Not too bad!

"What's that mean?"

Well, he only played one season... so there is not a lot to go on.

"Oh, so he's really young and raw?"

Nah, he's old as crap when it comes to college prospects...

"Hmm... did he get any accolades in that one season?"

Nope!

"Did he play at a big program?"

The biggest!

"How'd they do?"

Worst season in decades!
 

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Hes “old”? Y'all acting like hes Chris Weinke.
 
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