kerouac9
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Mahomes had 1300+ passing attempts at Tech. Ty Simpson had 523. Dig deeper into the data my man.
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If you actualy read what I wrote, I acknowledged that. "Yes, he didn't have the total number of reps as Pat in their careers, but it's not like he only played 1 year and and declared." Also, Pat has a losing record as a starter.
But thanks for being you and always trying!
kerouac9
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Ty Simpson had a total of 40 passing attempts before this season. What are you on about? He almost literally only played one year.
Anthony Richardson had more college passing attempts than Simpson had the year before his final season.
Simpson spent three years standing on the sidelines watching better players ball out and then getting in for an average of three passing attempts a game.
Yeah...they count starts.
But that ain't the only time a guy gets reps..
In truth...coming in during the second quarter can be tougher and in some ways better experience.
Coaches often tend to reverting to a "safer" gameplan when the backup comes in and that can make it more predictable for the defense.
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Mahomes led the country in yards and touchdowns.
Kyler won the Heisman.
Ty had zero accolades and Alabama had their worst season in 20 years.
What does any of that have to do with experience?
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You brought up the comparisons.
For experience! That is the discussion we're having, its about experience in response to Harry's post. What you did is called moving the goalpost.
But since you brought up Pat MaHomes numbers in college, he also has a losing record in a pass happy offense always playing from behind.
Ty was one of the best QBs in the nation by the numbers with zero running attack and led Alabama to a 9th place ranking in the nation.
As for the Heisman, we have seen how well that as worked out for most QBs in the NFL.
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Stout
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It's a bad argument. By numbers (number of starts) Ty Simpson would have to be the huge exception to the rule that has decades of data to back up that these inexperienced QBs just don't work out in the NFL. Is Simpson that special, once in a generation kind of guy? Haha, no. That's my opinion. The problem is, there's no arguing the data. Unless he is literally the super special exception to the rule, he's going to fail.
The problem is you have TSDS and no one is taking you arguments seriously with him anymore
kerouac9
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Is your argument truly that Ty Simpson should be considered as having as much or more experience than Patrick Mahomes because Simpson rode pine for three years, accumulating fewer than 100 passing attempts over that period?
azgreg
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I'm with Stout on this one which means I now need a shower.
Stout
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Wow, you're already coming out with TSDS? That alone pretty much invalidates you as ridiculous.
I've shown data and logic to put across my opinion. There is some data and logic on the other side--his accuracy, etc--but the hand ringing and bending over backwards to excuse his shortcomings is something else. I mean, I get it--we're desperate for a QBOF. I can understand the desire to cling onto the hope. For me, history isn't kind to Simpson's chances.
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Mahomes wasn't 24 when he took his first snaps in the NFL.
Simpson has reached his ceiling and people are going to be sorely disappointed in this dude.
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Making these dumb comparisons to players who actually had success in college just shows how desperate they are in their beliefs.
There is nothing in Simpsons history that says he will even be a backup in the NFL let alone a franchise QB.
Nothing but thoughts and feelings.
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MO drafting Ty Simpson will be the biggest mistake the Cards will ever make.
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I watched 3 of Grudens QB class videos this week. I know it doesn't really show any of the QBs in a truly negative light but I came away liking Ty Simpson and to a lesser extent Carson Beck quite a bit, their personalities showed through and they both seemed genuine and smart. Diego Pavia on the other hand came across like a guy I wouldn't want anywhere near my team.
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Well, if it’s any consolation, I think Ty is going to have less starts in the NFL than he did in college.
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What if it goes the other way and he turns into franchise qb?
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What if??
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All this attention for an average college QB is totally sus.
I truly believe there are agents of the QBs next year planting stories about this dude to keep their clients away from the Cards next draft.
I truly believe there are agents of the QBs next year planting stories about this dude to keep their clients away from the Cards next draft.
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netsnjkidd
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Yea why not. If you told someone a 7th round Brock Purdy would get a 200mill contract and make super bowl, they would say never in life. It's not impossible for Ty Simpson to be starting qb.
azgreg
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If my Aunt had wheels she'd be a bicycle.
Kurt Warner was 27 when he took his first NFL snap and 28 when he made his first start. See, I can play this dumb game too!
