Trey Hendrickson- Can we get him?

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Due to injuries and the Cardinals looking to generate a pass rush from anywhere possible late last season they moved Robinson around in an attempt to generate a pass rush. So while he did play edge a bunch in the few games he was out there, it was out of necessity. With the depth at Edge now I anticipate Robinson playing inside more. At the training camp practice that I attended he played with the ones as a DT along with Calais, and Tomlinson.
I think he plays as a five technique in odd fronts and a seven-technique in even fronts.
 

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a seven-technique in even fronts.

I see Robinson more as a 3-technique in even fronts but yes he has the ability to play outside. This flexibility give Rallis options to throw new looks at the offense. IMO Sweat if your prototypical strong side DE in an even front.
 

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I thought it was a fair response to my omission of DRob in edge assets. I didn't take it any other way.

To your point, I don't believe you can point to DRob as an example of a member of an "exceptional" pass rush at this time. I tend to be VERY optimistic in regards to DRob but he hasn't shown anything yet.
It was more a criticism of K9 than your post. Argueing where he plays this year based on last year is just pointless. I just thought you are wasting your time trying to prove a point to someone who just wanted to argue.

DR played were he was needed due to the lack of personnel last year.

I suspect DR will most likely line-up as 5 tech DE in the penny front. That is outside for a DL but NOT outside
 

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I see Robinson more as a 3-technique in even fronts but yes he has the ability to play outside. This flexibility give Rallis options to throw new looks at the offense. IMO Sweat if your prototypical strong side DE in an even front.
I think we’ll see Nolen and Stills in that role. That’s where Robinson made himself a first round pick at Mizzou.

Just not where the Cards have played him and probably not his most direct path to PT.
 

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Due to injuries and the Cardinals looking to generate a pass rush from anywhere possible late last season they moved Robinson around in an attempt to generate a pass rush. So while he did play edge a bunch in the few games he was out there, it was out of necessity. With the depth at Edge now I anticipate Robinson playing inside more. At the training camp practice that I attended he played with the ones as a DT along with Calais, and Tomlinson.
So just like the depth chart hmmm
 

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I think we’ll see Nolen and Stills in that role. That’s where Robinson made himself a first round pick at Mizzou.

Just not where the Cards have played him and probably not his most direct path to PT.
It is an interesting question and with the amount of depth that the Cardinals have amassed on the DL they do have a lot of options.

This got me thinking about how the Cardinals like to rotate defensive lineman. Could we see the lines rotated something like this?

DT Line Rotation 1: 3-4 defense base
DT Campbell - NT Tomlinson - DT Robinson

DT Line Rotation 2: 4-3 defense base
NT (??Nichols / Mustipher??), DT (Nolan III / Stills)
 

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It is an interesting question and with the amount of depth that the Cardinals have amassed on the DL they do have a lot of options.

This got me thinking about how the Cardinals like to rotate defensive lineman. Could we see the lines rotated something like this?

DT Line Rotation 1: 3-4 defense base
DT Campbell - NT Tomlinson - DT Robinson

DT Line Rotation 2: 4-3 defense base
NT (??Nichols / Mustipher??), DT (Nolan III / Stills)
Jones is prolly in the even front rotation. Collier is probably in the odd front rotation.
 
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It is an interesting question and with the amount of depth that the Cardinals have amassed on the DL they do have a lot of options.

This got me thinking about how the Cardinals like to rotate defensive lineman. Could we see the lines rotated something like this?

DT Line Rotation 1: 3-4 defense base
DT Campbell - NT Tomlinson - DT Robinson

DT Line Rotation 2: 4-3 defense base
NT (??Nichols / Mustipher??), DT (Nolan III / Stills)
There are no DT's in a 3-4... just a NT and 2 DE's.... but your lineup of CC, DT, And DR still works...

No NT's in a 4-3 either...but we could still go Campbell, Tomlinson, Nolen, Robinson...with Sweat and Burch outside
 

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There are no DT's in a 3-4... just a NT and 2 DE's.... but your lineup of CC, DT, And DR still works...

No NT's in a 4-3 either...but we could still go Campbell, Tomlinson, Nolen, Robinson...with Sweat and Burch outside
Some call them DEs some call them DTs. It's just semantics.
 

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Jones is prolly in the even front rotation. Collier is probably in the odd front rotation.
They are rotational players and I do not think talking about odd and even fronts make much sense.

We have no idea how hat the fronts will look like when going from the weakest DL and Edge to among the best in one season (measured in depth - not top end). By all looks the standard formation is the penny front with 3 DLs that rotate based on situation.

Collier will probably back up CC and DR and guessing the lowest snap count of any DL. Jones is the only player that is somewhat capable of backing up Tomlinson. He played sorta that role (same role, different scheme) in Chicago and was decent.
 

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We have no idea how hat the fronts will look like when going from the weakest DL and Edge to among the best in one season (measured in depth - not top end). By all looks the standard formation is the penny front with 3 DLs that rotate based on situation.
The curtain hasn’t raised as of yet. We know the story line but the opening scene is still to come.

One aging league veteran, two high paid FAs, one injured draft pick and another still finding his place. Not going to ignore the facts…
 

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Let's just hope that the combined sack total for the Cardinals exceed the Bengals. I'll be happy with that.
 

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