Todd Haley signs extension

[Arizona's Finest]

If I was Haley I'd have gone on the interview just for the experience. This way he'll be better prepared when he eventually interviews for a HC job that he actually wants. Even if you don't think you're getting the job it never hurts to go in for an interview.

Unless you are getting a raise and extension to not go.

Then you stay

 

[Assface]

I love that we did this but what exactly is Todd Haleys role again? Wisenhunt was calling the plays, no? What would be his motivation to stay?

Whisenhunt calls the plays on gameday but there's still a lot of work for an OC to do. Someone has to take care of the offense during practice while KW is overseeing the entire team. There's game film to break down of both our offense's performance and the upcoming defense, game plans to put together. I seriously doubt the guy is sitting around collecting a paycheck without doing anything but filling a title.

 

[az1965]

I love that we did this but what exactly is Todd Haleys role again? Wisenhunt was calling the plays, no? What would be his motivation to stay?

Wouldn't you like to be in a job where you are getting thousands of $$$ to just kick back and relax???

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Whisenhunt calls the plays on gameday but there's still a lot of work for an OC to do. Someone has to take care of the offense during practice while KW is overseeing the entire team. There's game film to break down of both our offense's performance and the upcoming defense, game plans to put together. I seriously doubt the guy is sitting around collecting a paycheck without doing anything but filling a title.

Well somehow he is now one of the highest paid OC's in the NFL. When/if Wiz hands him play calling duties remains to be seen but geez....

Things sure have changed in Cardinal land the past couple years.....

 

[slanidrac16]

Same ole' Cardinals.

Continuity, at last.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Ugh. Not really thrilled. Just because Parcells was courting him, they gave him an extension and a raise?? I'm sure he used it as leverage.

I think you finally found it. Everyone has been wondering why Graves was extended. Maybe Parcells said he liked him last year . At least Haley was productive and showed some reults that merited a raise and extension.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Another good thing about it is that Leinart will have the same OC for the first time.Plus,it seems, Haley and him have some cohevesiveness since Haley was praising Leinart for the work he has put in since being injured.

 

[Totally_Red]

Good move by the Cardinals! The offense was markedly improved this year, especially in the red zone, despite numerous injuries to skill position players. Haley earned the raise and extension.

 

[lobo]

Of course I agree with everyone who is positive on this. For those of you who question the move and bring up Haley's relationship with TO. Thiink of this. TO hates Parcells. One way to get to Parcells was through Haley...keep sticking finger in Haley's eyes..get it? Haley is a very highly respected OC around the league and other teams have whispered about him and wanted him. I assure you he will get his shot at a top job somewhere/someday.

 

[Capital Card]

I think you finally found it. Everyone has been wondering why Graves was extended. Maybe Parcells said he liked him last year . At least Haley was productive and showed some reults that merited a raise and extension.

Cbus, I'm not sure how serious you are with the above post, but consider this...

We've both been a fan of this team for 20+ years now, and no doubt, you remember the Larry Wilson/George Boone run teams. Do you recall the Cards ever having as much tallent on the team as they do right now?
Doesn't Rod Graves deserve some credit for this?

Maybe the abomination that was the Dave Mac "one heart-beat" have jaded me and at least one of the Stallings/Bugel/Ryan teams could dominate our current roster, but I don' think so.

Graves was an inexperienced GM when he came here. He's had to learn on the job, and the Suggs/Pace/Johnson fiasco will probably stick with him forever; however, I have to admit that he and Michael Bidwill have transformed the Cardinals from a complete laughing-stock to a legitimate NFL franchise.

Just my opinion.

Go Cards!!!

 

[Matt L]

I agree Capital Card. It is far too easy to look at the mistakes made but I think that we should be able to review the positives that this team has made over the last three years as well. It does seem that the team has been able to retain some talented players and is making its way to being a run of the mill franchise in the NFL.

 

[DeAnna]

I just hope they get their play-calling act together. Whiz calls the plays, relays it to Haley, who then relays it to the QB. No wonder the Cards had to blow so many time-outs because the play didn't get in on time.

 

[Redheart]

Already signed through 2009, thus a 1 year extension.

Reading is essential.

...you don't mess with capologists....

 

[DaisyCutter]

I obviously don't have a problem with continuity. My problem is with compensation. Can anyone here with a straight face say that Todd Haley, who doesn't call plays here and didn't call plays in Dallas (Sparano did), is one of the five-best offensive coordinators in the NFL? If not, then why is he being paid as one?

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I obviously don't have a problem with continuity. My problem is with compensation. Can anyone here with a straight face say that Todd Haley, who doesn't call plays here and didn't call plays in Dallas (Sparano did), is one of the five-best offensive coordinators in the NFL? If not, then why is he being paid as one?

see post #18 in this thread

 

[DaisyCutter]

see post #18 in this thread

Exactly. I think that is actually a point for Haley as someone needs to get in Warners face about turning over the freaking ball.

Furthering the contention I held earlier about Wisenhunt transitoning play calling duties.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/0108haley.html

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt eventually plans to hand over play-calling duties to Haley, who has been an NFL assistant for 11 years.

Okay, so eventually he might call the plays, which he's still never done before. Does that make it worthwhile to pay him as much as the guys who do call the plays right now? Again, can anyone make the serious contention that Todd Haley is one of the top 5 OCs in the NFL?

 

[TRW]

Sorry if I missed this in the thread...

but, one article I read said that Whiz is eventually going to turn the playcalling to Haley. He just called the plays his first year to establish his game plan.

I think this is good for the most over used cliche' in the NFL - "continuity". In this case I think it really applies. What has Matt had in his 3 years? 4 OC's or something like that? Denny messed up the most in his hiring of assistant coaches IMO. And, he didn't have any clue what was going on in the game at times, or so it seemed.

One thing that I agree with other posters on, this team better improve on their play calling IN GAME. They need to get the play in faster consistently so the early timeout calls will stop and the delay of game penalties don't happen. It is a pleasure to watch the really good teams in the league like Indy, NE run their offense. The clueless teams always seem to struggle in keeping the flow going, a la the Cardinals the last couple of years.

Sorry, I'm rambling on......

I say good move on this one.

LOL, clarification post on the transition on playcalling hit as I typed my post

People on this board are quick LOL

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Okay, so eventually he might call the plays, which he's still never done before. Does that make it worthwhile to pay him as much as the guys who do call the plays right now? Again, can anyone make the serious contention that Todd Haley is one of the top 5 OCs in the NFL?

Obviously he is seen within the coaching staff and organization as a prime time asset. He was about to interview for the Head Coaching job in Miami after all.

Are we really arguing about on why the Bidwills ante'd up? WTF?

We should be throwing a party - First paying Grimm and now this?

 

[Capital Card]

http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2203

A little way down is a video link to Haley at Training Camp... Great stuff if you ask me.

Thanks to Urban for including this link in his latest piece.

Go Cards!!!

 

[Mulli]

http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2203

A little way down is a video link to Haley at Training Camp... Great stuff if you ask me.

Thanks to Urban for including this link in his latest piece.

Go Cards!!!

FIGURE IT OUT!

Great stuff

 

[CardLogic]

http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2203

A little way down is a video link to Haley at Training Camp... Great stuff if you ask me.

I hadn't seen that clip before. I agree, great stuff!!!

 

[Mulli]

Not that it means anything at all, but I thought Haley was black.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I obviously don't have a problem with continuity. My problem is with compensation. Can anyone here with a straight face say that Todd Haley, who doesn't call plays here and didn't call plays in Dallas (Sparano did), is one of the five-best offensive coordinators in the NFL? If not, then why is he being paid as one?

Why??? It's not off the cap....

 

[CardLogic]

Why??? It's not off the cap....

I can see why it might be a concern, i.e. - if the Cards are spending too much on coaching, then they won't want to spend on FA's. Have I caught the gist of it, CC?

BUT I don't agree with that premise.

First, I don't think that the two, coaches salaries and FA payouts, are necessarily related. The Bidwills' financial outlook has improved considerably in the past several years. (See: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=105126 )

With not only the increased revenues from the new stadium but also the associated real estate deals the Bidwills are entering a new era in their Cardinal ownership; one in which they may be better able to compete on a financial footing with some of the other owners in the league.

Second, in my opinion, coaching makes as much, if not more of a difference in the NFL as players do. So it is worth the investment to pay and retain good coaches.

 

[Renz]

Haley is our passing game coordinator and our passing offense finished 5th in the NFL this season.