The Price for Orton

[Goldfield]

3rd and next years 4th! get it done!

 

[Goldfield]

Orton would be the best QB not named Warner I can ever remember the Cardinals having.

 

[Mulli]

Orton would be the best QB not named Warner I can ever remember the Cardinals having.

Lomax. Easy.

 

[Goldfield]

I never saw him.

 

[Mulli]

I never saw him.

He was good, just had bad wheels.

 

[Goldfield]

Regardless, were not getting Luck. I would rather take a proven solid QB in Orton that roll the dice and the next few seasons with a rookie.

I think Skelton can be a solid #2.

Orton is more than a band-aid.

 

[Mulli]

Cards have a high second round pick this year, too high for Orton.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

I've seen Orton play a bunch in Chicago, pretty good QB, won't take you to the SB on his shoulders, but could get us to the playoffs next year...which is really a great turn-around.

If you can't get Kolb, and you can get Orton for a decent price - this is really a no brainer.

 

[Goldfield]

Our 3rd is high enough to get Orton I think. If not send next years 4th also.

Good QBs still in their prime are not easy to get in the league.

It would be foolish not to get him.

 

[Proteus]

Would Orton be good enough for Fitz to want to re-sign?

 

[Goldfield]

Why does everyone cry about Fitz? As good as he is he is still a WR. WRs do not win super bowls.

 

[ajcardfan]

Why does everyone cry about Fitz? As good as he is he is still a WR. WRs do not win super bowls.

Because you generally don't get better by losing your top players for nothing.

 

[Zeno]

A 2nd or 3rd is too high for Orton and I like Orton. Maybe a 4th and a conditional 4-6th round pick for 2012(depending on playing time/wins/stats/etc)?

 

[Goldfield]

^^^ I dont get this thinking. a 3rd or 4th are nothing to having a legit QB.

 

[Goldfield]

"Because you generally don't get better by losing your top players for nothing."

So make Fitz your GM so he can please himself?

 

[Zeno]

^^^ I dont get this thinking. a 3rd or 4th are nothing to having a legit QB.

Because Orton isn't worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick IMO. He is a decent QB but not Warner.

 

[Duckjake]

"Because you generally don't get better by losing your top players for nothing."

So make Fitz your GM so he can please himself?

That's a terrific idea. We'd be a hell of a lot better off than having Graves.

I just don't understand how franchises can see the Patriots, Colts and Steelers win every year and not figure out that you put together an offense and/or defense that other teams have trouble dealing with and acquire players to fit those systems.

Ego I guess. Think they have a better mouse trap.

 

[Chopper0080]

Trade our 2011 3rd rounder and 2012 4th rounder for Orton.

Sign Champ Bailey

Trade our #5 pick and DRC to Carolina for the #1 and take Luck.

My pipe dream.

 

[WarnerHOF]

Kyle Orton = Best garbage time stat padder in the NFL.

 

[Duckjake]

Kyle Orton = Best garbage time stat padder in the NFL.

The Todd Zeile of the NFL? Managed to have a 16 year ML career by hitting 3 run HRs when his team was either ahead 5-0 or behind 8-1.

 

[Pariah]

Kyle Orton = Best garbage time stat padder in the NFL.

That's not how he got a lot of his stats this year. He played very, very well for much of the season.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

That's not how he got a lot of his stats this year. He played very, very well for much of the season.

Ditto - he's a good QB, smart, relatively accurate - not a game changer, but easily a vast improvement from anyone on our roster.

I guess that would make him a game changer on our team...

 

[Mulli]

Kyle Orton = Best garbage time stat padder in the NFL.

Carson Palmer disagrees.

 

[Goldfield]

ZENO- "Because Orton isn't worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick IMO. He is a decent QB but not Warner."

Ok so because he isnt a HALL OF FAME PLAYER he isnt worth a 3rd rounder?

The guy has been very good over the last two years and is only in his 5th season. Its hard to find a QB in the first round that can put up Ortons numbers.

 

[Zeno]

ZENO- "Because Orton isn't worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick IMO. He is a decent QB but not Warner."

Ok so because he isnt a HALL OF FAME PLAYER he isnt worth a 3rd rounder?

The guy has been very good over the last two years and is only in his 5th season. Its hard to find a QB in the first round that can put up Ortons numbers.

You can't build around Orton, he is a decent stopgap and that is it....so no he isn't worth anything higher than a 4th round pick IMO.