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I'm using as many outlets as I can to help facilitate my career change. In May I'm graduating with my second masters degree, an MBA in Marketing from ASU. I also have a masters in Curriculum Instruction with an Emphasis in Technology.

I'm trying to shift careers from education to the business world with the hopes of making significant more money than what I'm pulling in now as a teacher.

I'm interested in research marketing, obviously looking for something higher than entry level (ASU seems convinced that I'm worth at least 80k a year with my degree from them, but we shall see). If anyone has any leads within their company, or suggestions for me on the job search, let me know. This is all very new for me, as the process of getting a teaching job is pretty straight forward compared to this.
 

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Don't want to rain on your parade, but I'd be highly surprised at 80k starting.

Not sure what exactly research marketing is. Maybe you can give a description?

As for Curriculum Instruction with an Emphasis in Technology, that sounds right in the field of elearning. Pearson has a big foot print locally, but is very difficult to get in depending on the position. Phoenix used to have a nice elearning community, but it has dwindled down over the years. You could look at schools offering online programs such as Ashford or UoP. A lot will let you work remotely too.

indeed.com is a great job search site. Kind of the google of job searching. Search for something like, "elearning curriculum design"

Unless you're in the Bay area, 80k is not likely for curriculum development unless you have the exp to match it.
 
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Don't want to rain on your parade, but I'd be highly surprised at 80k starting.

Not sure what exactly research marketing is. Maybe you can give a description?

As for Curriculum Instruction with an Emphasis in Technology, that sounds right in the field of elearning. Pearson has a big foot print locally, but is very difficult to get in depending on the position. Phoenix used to have a nice elearning community, but it has dwindled down over the years. You could look at schools offering online programs such as Ashford or UoP. A lot will let you work remotely too.

indeed.com is a great job search site. Kind of the google of job searching. Search for something like, "elearning curriculum design"

Unless you're in the Bay area, 80k is not likely for curriculum development unless you have the exp to match it.


Yeah I'm very skeptical of that too, but the average ASU MBA Graduate starts at 92k, according to 2013's graduating class and I've been working with their career center that says I should be weary of jobs that offer less than 80k, so who knows. I honestly don't care if I use my previous masters degree in my future job either.

Research marketing utilizes market research to help make decisions in purchasing, marketing and expanding into new areas of the market. One job I was reading about was a job in Arkansas for Walmart. The starting salary was around 90k and they were looking for a marketing MBA graduate, but I'm not sure I want to move to Arkansas to do it. Basically, the position was managing a team of people through all of Walmarts market research to help them guide their decisions on how to market to different segments of the market, both locally and internationally. I'm not so sure I'm willing to relocate though, as my girlfriend lives here and I have family and the Cardinals... (which is probably a bigger motivation to stay here than my family haha).

I feel like I'm becoming an adult again for the first time. Getting a teaching job is easy, you know exactly what jobs you are qualified for based on your certification. The business world is far more ambiguous on what jobs you can or cannot do.
 

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Don't want to rain on your parade, but I'd be highly surprised at 80k starting.

Not sure what exactly research marketing is. Maybe you can give a description?

As for Curriculum Instruction with an Emphasis in Technology, that sounds right in the field of elearning. Pearson has a big foot print locally, but is very difficult to get in depending on the position. Phoenix used to have a nice elearning community, but it has dwindled down over the years. You could look at schools offering online programs such as Ashford or UoP. A lot will let you work remotely too.

indeed.com is a great job search site. Kind of the google of job searching. Search for something like, "elearning curriculum design"

Unless you're in the Bay area, 80k is not likely for curriculum development unless you have the exp to match it.

Have to second the thoughts about the salary. $80K, especially in this area and without relevant experience, is highly unlikely.

I would look into joining some professional organizations, or at least attend some of their events. Talk to people and have a business card available so they can get in touch with you.

I would also target organizations outside of indeed.com. Look for companies you want to work for and pitch them. And try to be patient. The job market isn't as great as some are making it out to be.

Of course, all this fabulous advice comes from a current teacher who can't get her butt back into the business world to save her life. :p Actually, I have put my job search on hold until after this year since I should be approved for much of my student loans to be forgiven. :)

In any case, congrats!!! BTW, do you plan on signing a teaching contract for the coming year if you do not find something by contract-signing deadline? Just curious. Hope you don't mind me asking.
 
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Have to second the thoughts about the salary. $80K, especially in this area and without relevant experience, is highly unlikely.

I would look into joining some professional organizations, or at least attend some of their events. Talk to people and have a business card available so they can get in touch with you.

I would also target organizations outside of indeed.com. Look for companies you want to work for and pitch them. And try to be patient. The job market isn't as great as some are making it out to be.

Of course, all this fabulous advice comes from a current teacher who can't get her butt back into the business world to save her life. :p Actually, I have put my job search on hold until after this year since I should be approved for much of my student loans to be forgiven. :)

In any case, congrats!!! BTW, do you plan on signing a teaching contract for the coming year if you do not find something by contract-signing deadline? Just curious. Hope you don't mind me asking.

Nope. Deadline was yesterday and I did not sign. I'd rather be homeless than teach another year. 8 years is enough.
 
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LOL. I hear ya, brutha.

Hey Wendy, there are a ton of training jobs out there right now that are pretty decent paying (55-65 range) that require marketing and training experience. You've got both, teaching and your previous marketing jobs. You should look into it.
 

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Hey Wendy, there are a ton of training jobs out there right now that are pretty decent paying (55-65 range) that require marketing and training experience. You've got both, teaching and your previous marketing jobs. You should look into it.

Thanks for the tip! I really appreciate it!

I started working on my own PR plan last night. I think the hardest thing for me right now is knowing what I DON'T want to do rather than knowing what I DO want to do. It's an uneasy feeling for me as I have always had a specific career path in mind.

Training is something I hadn't thought of before. Might be a good fit for me.
 
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Thanks for the tip! I really appreciate it!

I started working on my own PR plan last night. I think the hardest thing for me right now is knowing what I DON'T want to do rather than knowing what I DO want to do. It's an uneasy feeling for me as I have always had a specific career path in mind.

Training is something I hadn't thought of before. Might be a good fit for me.


Yeah, It's something I've considered as well. It's a similar job to teaching, but you deal with adults and you get paid better. It's probably a good match for both of our skill sets.
 

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Yeah, It's something I've considered as well. It's a similar job to teaching, but you deal with adults and you get paid better. It's probably a good match for both of our skill sets.
Yeah, it's a good gig if you enjoy being in front of ppl and can develop your own style. Pay is solid and you'll need some instructional design skills as a requirement.

I've interviewed a number of trainers and just know that you'll likely have to give a presentation to the interviewers as part of the process.
 

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Don't want to rain on your parade, but I'd be highly surprised at 80k starting.

Not sure what exactly research marketing is. Maybe you can give a description?

As for Curriculum Instruction with an Emphasis in Technology, that sounds right in the field of elearning. Pearson has a big foot print locally, but is very difficult to get in depending on the position. Phoenix used to have a nice elearning community, but it has dwindled down over the years. You could look at schools offering online programs such as Ashford or UoP. A lot will let you work remotely too.

indeed.com is a great job search site. Kind of the google of job searching. Search for something like, "elearning curriculum design"

Unless you're in the Bay area, 80k is not likely for curriculum development unless you have the exp to match it.

I know someone who works there. ME! Going on 10 years this August. Eesh.

We are almost always hiring at the entry level position, not the $80k you are looking for. Most of our positions start in the $40k-60k range.
 
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I know someone who works there. ME! Going on 10 years this August. Eesh.

We are almost always hiring at the entry level position, not the $80k you are looking for. Most of our positions start in the $40k-60k range.

Could you please hire someone to improve Successmaker so it doesn't flake out with every Java update? :D
 

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I know someone who works there. ME! Going on 10 years this August. Eesh.
Ditto. Chandler?

We are almost always hiring at the entry level position, not the $80k you are looking for. Most of our positions start in the $40k-60k range.
That's my point, 80k starting is going to be hard to find w/o some experience.

Could you please hire someone to improve Successmaker so it doesn't flake out with every Java update? :D
No comment and don't hold your breath. ;-)
 

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Could you please hire someone to improve Successmaker so it doesn't flake out with every Java update? :D

lol.

It is a global strategy to rid ourselves of the Java update issues. It will probably be 12 months before that happens. PowerSchool 8 coming out this summer will no longer be affected by Java updates.
 

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Ditto. Chandler?


That's my point, 80k starting is going to be hard to find w/o some experience.


No comment and don't hold your breath. ;-)

I worked out of the Chandler office, but I now work from home. Good times.
 
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I'm talking to a Pearson recruiter tomorrow via telephone. She responded right away to a job I applied for, but apparently that job is in San Antonio and not Phoenix (despite the description on Indeed). She said she is interested in helping me find another possibility there, so the conversation is still happening. I've also been in contact with someone at Insight.com so the search is plodding along, but I seem to be making progress.
 
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