The Final Straw: Please Fire Ossenfort Now.

[Phrazbit]

Talent acquisition, roster building, contracts. etc., that's all a GM's job. Mikey is definitely a detriment, but Keim didn't seem hamstrung by money and put together winning teams. The Palmer team that lost to Carolina, to me, was the most talented team in the league.

Monty is failing but let’s not pretend Kiem wasn’t terrible. He was awful at the draft and dished out loads of awful contracts.

If we hadn’t landed Bruce I don’t know if he ever would’ve had a winning team, and he left the roster in a putrid state.

 

[jf-08]

Donnie Druin
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#AZCardinals owner Michael Bidwill the morning after firing Jonathan Gannon:

"We want to win. This was a decision that was based solely off winning. When I look at what other teams have done, and frankly, historically, we've done a quick turnaround in our not too distant past, I am looking forward to that, and I hope it's going to be in the first year, not in the second year."

Talk about tone deaf. The only way he wants to win is if HE GETS CREDIT for winning and blames everyone else for losing. He needs to be a hands-off owner and hire football people to run football operations.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Talk about tone deaf. The only way he wants to win is if HE GETS CREDIT for winning and blames everyone else for losing. He needs to be a hands-off owner and hire football people to run football operations.

His hubris knows no bounds.

 

[jf-08]

Five year extension incoming

And then fire him the day after the extension is signed.

 

[WhyOwhy]

Old habits die hard…

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[jf-08]

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[football karma]

Talk about tone deaf. The only way he wants to win is if HE GETS CREDIT for winning and blames everyone else for losing. He needs to be a hands-off owner and hire football people to run football operations.

I think this is 100% the case

he wants to be the savior of the family name

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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In a day and age of AI, Joel is still a quick rudimentary cut and paste photoshop guy. Love it.

 

[football karma]

my current operating theory on the Cardinal front office:

Mike B is the de-facto GM.

Monti does all the day to day heavy lifting required by the job, but Mike makes all the key decisions.

Its how Monti saved himself -- there is a fine art in making your bosses "suggestions" always seem like the best decision at the time

we basically have Temu Jerry Jones

 

[kerouac9]

my current operating theory on the Cardinal front office:

Mike B is the de-facto GM.

Monti does all the day to day heavy lifting required by the job, but Mike makes all the key decisions.

Its how Monti saved himself -- there is a fine art in making your bosses "suggestions" always seem like the best decision at the time

we basically have Temu Jerry Jones

It’s interesting. The Athletic Football Podcast was talking about how the NFC West four dragons meme has never been more relevant.

The host told now-familiar story excusing Ossenfort that the scouting process here has been frozen in amber for four decades because we’d only been promoting in-house, and Monti has had to retool the evaluation process process on the fly to modernize it (whatever that means).

 

[Stout]

It’s interesting. The Athletic Football Podcast was talking about how the NFC West four dragons meme has never been more relevant.

The host told now-familiar story excusing Ossenfort that the scouting process here has been frozen in amber for four decades because we’d only been promoting in-house, and Monti has had to retool the evaluation process process on the fly to modernize it (whatever that means).

Lots of folks were in here excusing Monti for not cleaning house with the scouting department day one. Give him a year, they said. Then year two came, year three, and here we are in year four, and here we still are.

 

[kerouac9]

Lots of folks were in here excusing Monti for not cleaning house with the scouting department day one. Give him a year, they said. Then year two came, year three, and here we are in year four, and here we still are.

It’s almost all the same people. My understanding is the systems or process was archaic somehow.

At the end of the day, you’re still evaluating athletes. As long as you’re not asking ChatGPT like that commercial, you’re probably doing okay.

It’s not like the Pats were crushing it through the draft.

 

[TruColor]

In a day and age of AI, Joel is still a quick rudimentary cut and paste photoshop guy. Love it.

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[SoonerLou]

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[football karma]

It’s interesting. The Athletic Football Podcast was talking about how the NFC West four dragons meme has never been more relevant.

The host told now-familiar story excusing Ossenfort that the scouting process here has been frozen in amber for four decades because we’d only been promoting in-house, and Monti has had to retool the evaluation process process on the fly to modernize it (whatever that means).

I recall reading a piece on how the Rams totally disregard timed speed and instead rely on measurements of game speed as determined by the trackers player wear and/or by computer analysis of game film.

Its one of the reasons they liked Puka -- timed at 4.57 which is pretty meh -- but clearly plays far, far faster on the field.

I remember reading that and thinking "why would they let other teams know about it?". Probably because (likely) everyone does it.

Well, maybe not everyone...........

 

[Zalixar]

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Also tough getting advice from a counselor licensed from the center for adults who can't read good and who wanna learn to do other stuff good too

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I kinda don’t blame Monti. 48yo and nobody else wanted him to be GM. So might as well do the dumb dance and kiss up the owner by doing what he wants. Extend seven-figure earning window by 4-5 years to ~10 years and guarantee you and the kids live comfortably forever. The math works on that better than jumping around random front offices and spending your life on the road scouting making $300k/yr.

Bidwill is the main problem. He doesn’t attract talented and successful people. And when those types he’s able to get through the mechanics of how the NFL works via the draft, more often than not he somehow stifles or removes said talent with miserable culture and stupid decision-making

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Monty and Bidwill are both the problem for different reasons.

 

[football karma]

re: lack of plan. Im not the only one who isnt following along

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[Harry]

Hey Mikey, I let Roy walk for 2.5 mill but I resigned him at 5.5 mill.
I've assembled what might be the slowest RB room in the NFL and I signed a backup QB behind our current backup QB.

Detroit developed him better than the Cards did.

 

[Chopper0080]

Detroit developed him better than the Cards did.

He played 39% of snaps last year.

 

[kerouac9]

He played 39% of snaps last year.

That’s pretty good for a two-gap DL.

Of course, that defense finished. 22nd in scoring, 18th in yardage, and 24th in rushing average allowed.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I kinda don’t blame Monti. 48yo and nobody else wanted him to be GM. So might as well do the dumb dance and kiss up the owner by doing what he wants. Extend seven-figure earning window by 4-5 years to ~10 years and guarantee you and the kids live comfortably forever. The math works on that better than jumping around random front offices and spending your life on the road scouting making $300k/yr.

Bidwill is the main problem. He doesn’t attract talented and successful people. And when those types he’s able to get through the mechanics of how the NFL works via the draft, more often than not he somehow stifles or removes said talent with miserable culture and stupid decision-making

Don't hate the player!!

 

[kerouac9]

I kinda don’t blame Monti. 48yo and nobody else wanted him to be GM. So might as well do the dumb dance and kiss up the owner by doing what he wants. Extend seven-figure earning window by 4-5 years to ~10 years and guarantee you and the kids live comfortably forever. The math works on that better than jumping around random front offices and spending your life on the road scouting making $300k/yr.

Bidwill is the main problem. He doesn’t attract talented and successful people. And when those types he’s able to get through the mechanics of how the NFL works via the draft, more often than not he somehow stifles or removes said talent with miserable culture and stupid decision-making

He was also escaping a sinking ship in TN.

 

[Chopper0080]

Part of me feels that these FA signings are intended to give Monti's draft picks the opportunity to make an impact. For example, Allgeier doesn't catch passes and is slow. Benson theoretically can win the RB spot if he can catch passes, stay healthy an break off big runs. Seumalo plays LG which enables Adams to still start at RG. Bourne doesn't threaten either Wilson or MHJ. No DL signed that get in the way of Robinson, Stills, and Nolen. No ILB signed to prevent either Pappoe or Simon from starting opposite of Wilson. No new CBs brought in. JT let go and only a special teams S signed so the battle essentially is between DTD and Crawford.