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  1. Mainstreet

    Mainstreet Registered User Contributor

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    This was a major blunder by Suns front office. Warren was minimally worth a first round pick.

    It was sort of a Bledsoe thing the way the Suns handled it.
     
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    Tony Delk had 50+ Once too. Don’t overreact.

    Nobody was going to give the suns a first for him. Cap space has value. But they definitely should have got something.
     
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    Every Suns fan went ugh. TJ didn't get along with all the youth this was all on MC. New front office did him a service and I'm happy for him. Now Josh Jackson I will never be happy for
     
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    Scenarios are different this time , oubre has done nothing but say he enjoys his teammates and Phoenix, TJ was publicly upset. They still should have got something for him but TJ was a discruntled one dimensional player he's not going to command much
     
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    Chaplin Better off silent

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    It's abundantly clear that being on a winning team (even if it's in the east) has made him change his perspective. Good for him, but this isn't the same player that was in Phoenix.
     
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    He trys harder now which helps for sure but hes still a bad defender and only a so so playmaker
     
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    And he doesn't have phantom injuries anymore apparently. I wonder if the Suns had any problems insuring him in the latter years of his stay here.
     
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    He is a good scoring Wing on the right team. That is what he offers.

    It became obvious that the Suns were not the right team.

    If we had Warren back now, it still wouldn't be the right team.
    It would block the development we've seen in Bridges.

    And if Warren were still covering the Power Forward position
    alongside the finesse Ayton, we'd have no hope.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    That’s revisionist history. We had a lot of conjecture that TJ was as upset based on his bizarre prolonged injuries. But I do not recall him ever coming out publicly as being disgruntled.
     
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    tony delk never averaged 19 ppg as the key member of a playoff team. Tony Delk never averaged more than 12 points period for any team.

    The above is said without any evidence. And they shouldn’t have sat on him and put themselves in a terrible bargaining position with a glut of 3s and needed cap space before trading him.

    it was the same stupid mistake they made with Bledsoe. They knew theY werent going to sign an extension with him, yet waited to trade him for too long until his value bottomed out and still got taken for a weak deal.

    it’s okay to just say we took it on the chin on that deal.
     
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    TJ never said anything public. That’s BS.

    look, I’m not saying I want him back. I’m saying if this happens again with Oubre and we get pennies on the dollars for him like we did Warren (actually, we somehow GAVE pennies plus the dollar there) and leave ourselves with one good 3 and nothing else to show for three talented guys, that will be a major detriment to building a good roster.
     
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    They could have found a taker who would part with a 1st if they wanted to take on salary in return but since they had plans for all of the space they had, they couldn't take any salary in return. Throwing in the 2nd round pick with Warren was inexcusable though, whether you think we could have received a 1st for him or not. At the very least we should have received some future 2nd's for the 1 that we sent with him.
     
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    The Pacers were shocked we offered the pick. They were expecting us to ask for a second rounder.

    that said. Second round picks are t worth much.
     
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    When TJ was given away, with a pick attached, I recall it being a rare moment where the disappointment on this board was almost universal.

    I am not a big Warren fan, he is very one dimensional, but it is a very solid dimension. Giving him away, on that tiny contract, for less than nothing, is James Jones most egregious mistake.
     
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    We agree the Suns should have gotten something for Warren especially considering the lack of talented depth on the roster.

    The thing with Warren, it's not a fluke. This season he averages 19.2 points, 4 rebounds, 1.5 assists with a per of 17.90.

    IMO, it's an example of trading an apparently unhappy player too late.
     

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