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Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by Mainstreet, Aug 1, 2019.

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    Russell ended up in Golden State as a sign and trade with KD. He was a free agent but it was more complex than a simple signing. They wanted the salary, basically, from KD's departure, to to use in a trade elsewhere. They were already in luxury tax territory and didn't mind staying there. That wouldn't have happened if they let KD walk without getting any in return.
     
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    ONly watched the first half but Wiggins was terrible last night in the first half. 2nd half the Warriors made it closer so the plus minus numbers look bizarre, Heat starters mostly big minus, Warrior bench huge minuses. Wiggins has a long ways to go admittedly with so many new guys the Warriors were in disarray but the Heat just got open 3's and layups the whole first half and multiple times exploited Wiggins on switches with Adebayo either posting him up or back cutting and lobbing for the dunk. Weird lineup starting Chriss, Draymond, Wiggins, Lee and Bowman so basically playing 1 guard. He apparently had a much better 2nd half but they were down 19 at the half, had a big 3rd to get within 8 and then never really got closer looking at the box.

    I wish they had gotten a better player than Wiggins, the pick is the key to the deal I'm hoping it winds up a really high pick in the right draft.

    Weird watching Iggy in another jersey, looks to be in great shape.

    Spoelstra is a really good coach, that kid Duncan Robinson is unreal, over 80% of his shots this year are 3's, NBA record for a guy with more than 400 attempts.
     
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    Interesting to see how he holds up over time with that body but Zion is absolutely making a difference for the Pelicans now. 5-4 in the games he's played including losses to Milwaukee, Houston and Denver, the team is averaging over 120 PPG since he got in the lineup. Defense still a work in progress they're -1.5 BPM defensively but he makes their offense better and he's not even playing starters minutes yet and still shaking the rust off. First game went 4-4 on threes, I posted he won't do that again, he's 0-6 since then in the last 8 games, but again he's only taken 6 in 8 games, he's smart enough to know that 4-4 was a fluke.

    58% from the floor and I think that's going up he's starting to figure things out , even at this level he can just physically move defenders with a bump and finish over them.

    Pretty interesting team, you can argue that maybe it would better they don't make the playoffs and do well in the lottery. They have their own pick, they get the Cavs pick if not in the top 10. 2020 is not a great draft but if they can add another piece or 2 or use pieces to get something in return they could be interesting.

    Zion is a star if he can stay healthy, Ingram is very good. Of course the problem is Jrue probably doesn't intend to stay longterm, has 2 years left, and I doubt Redick intends to stay long term either but if they were all back next year healthy it's suddenly an intriguing team. Small team, if Jaxson Hayes continues to develop he could be the 5, right now they play lots of 3 and even 4 guards.
     
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    His touch around the rim is incredible for how hard and fast he attacks the paint. That’s something I noticed at Duke and thought it’s what made him different (besides the all-world explosiveness of course). It still looks like he could shave off 15lbs though. #bodyshaming
     
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    Great point it's amazing as you said how strong he goes up and then has touch on the shot.

    I still think he's going to have a short career he just is so big and he still has that odd gait like an old man, but man he really is good and you can see he's going to get much better. per minute his scoring as a rookie is really impressive. It is not a coincidence that the last 10 games Lonzo Ball has been really good(for him) he's at almost 45% overall 33 from 3, 11, 8 and 8 in Feb(with Zion) and if you add in January, his last 20 games about 12PPG and 8.5 APG. He was playing quite well before Zion got back but has been more efficient with Zion, taking less shots, making a higher %. All of a sudden they have a budding star in Zion, two really good players in Ingram and Jrue and Lonzo is playing the best ball of his career. They look very much like a playoff team right now even if they don't actually wind up in the playoffs.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    If Hayes develops they become a big team with Hayes, Ingram and Zion front line. And ball is a big point.
     
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    The Celtics are retiring KG’s number before the Wolves lmao.
     
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    That is unbelievable. The Wolves are such a bumbling franchise.
     
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    They are but didn't Garnett have a falling out with them a few years ago that has since turned pretty nasty on his side?
     
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    Hrmm. I am just getting caught up on all that. I knew when he left for Boston the owner trashed Garnett a bit, but I figured with KG returning there as a fossil to finish his career that things must have been patched up.

    Reading up on this, wow. I knew they were poorly ran but I didn't know the extent of the drama their owner gets involved in vs his own players.

    And good lord, I didn't know Scott Layden was their GM. That explains a lot. He laid the groundwork for the 20 year dumpster fire in New York. I cannot believe he got another GM job.
     
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    Yeah, I read a lot about it at one time and it's why I've always argued against Sarver being the worst. There are a couple of bad owners in his class such as the guy in Cleveland but IMO Dolan and Taylor stand alone as the worst NBA owners (now that Sterling is out).
     
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