Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[Yuma]

This is why the Suns should trade Book. Beal and Book did not work, your stuck with Beal And they both play the same position

The caveat to that is Book has many more remaining good years left as a player, whereas Beal will probably be cooked or declining more at that end of his two remaining seasons. Then at that point, the Suns would be in the market for a star like Booker anyway. So the thinking is you hang on to Book because that puts you one step ahead. I know we have a new GM, but after the trades you have seen us do in recent history, do you really trust them getting the right pieces back for Booker? I don't.

 

[Carolinacacti]

The caveat to that is Book has many more remaining good years left as a player, whereas Beal will probably be cooked or declining more at that end of his two remaining seasons. Then at that point, the Suns would be in the market for a star like Booker anyway. So the thinking is you hang on to Book because that puts you one step ahead. I know we have a new GM, but after the trades you have seen us do in recent history, do you really trust them getting the right pieces back for Booker? I don't.

Your right and if you get picks can they pick it right. But you trust them to trade Durant

 

[Yuma]

Your right and if you get picks can they pick it right. But you trust them to trade Durant

It seems because of the Beal situation, that forces them to reset by trading KD.

In your scenario, IF (not saying they will do this, just doing a thought experiment here) they did trade Booker, then I would argue they should just let KD and Beal play out their contracts. That would keep at least one reliable scorer on the squad, KD, while they rebuilt with draft picks, and in two seasons ALL that money from Beal and KD is gone. KD in one more season. Then our cap numbers would arguably be good, depending on the player's contracts we had to take back in the Booker trade and if we flipped or kept them at that time.

 

[Mainstreet]

Beal would still have that clause in his remaining two years. But at that low of a price, if he was injured, or played poorly, DC wouldn't be hampered by it.

The NTC is in Beal's current contract. If he is bought out and his contract is stretched by the Suns, then that ends.

Signing with a new team as a free agent, a new contract would be formed.

 

[Proximo]

That's how I feel although I'm assuming you meant to say "we're NOT contending".

Exactly, taking the cap hit for years in the future is just dumb on the off chance we get lucky and turn it around faster than one would expect.

 

[Proximo]

So Gambo was saying he is thinking Spurs might be the favorite for the KD deal, and it would center around Vassell and the 14th pick.

We don't exactly need another 2 guard but that value seems better than Randle and trash.

 

[Hoop Head]

So Gambo was saying he is thinking Spurs might be the favorite for the KD deal, and it would center around Vassell and the 14th pick.

We don't exactly need another 2 guard but that value seems better than Randle and trash.

I'd take Randle and trash over the #14 pick and another undersized SG.

 

[Yuma]

The NTC is in Beal's current contract. If he is bought out and his contract is stretched by the Suns, then that ends.

Signing with a new team as a free agent, a new contract would be formed.

Yes. I was thinking trade for some reason.

 

[outcent13]

Couple questions:

Does Micic signing in Europe take his salary off the books?

I’m reading the Cody Martin contract is not guaranteed if he is cut by June 30. Would this make sense?

Do these two moves alone get us below the second apron?

Thanks in advance

 

[Mainstreet]

Couple questions:

Does Micic signing in Europe take his salary off the books?

I’m reading the Cody Martin contract is not guaranteed if he is cut by June 30. Would this make sense?

Do these two moves alone get us below the second apron?

Thanks in advance

Losing these two salaries do not get the Suns below the second tax apron alone.

IMO, the Suns were already planning to let these two players walk for salary relief, although I like Cody Martin.

They will need to lose more salary to get there, although I am unsure of the exact amount but somewhere in the order of $25-30 million I would guess.

 

[Yuma]

Couple questions:

Does Micic signing in Europe take his salary off the books?

I’m reading the Cody Martin contract is not guaranteed if he is cut by June 30. Would this make sense?

Do these two moves alone get us below the second apron?

Thanks in advance

Yes Micic salary was not guaranteed with us this season. Also Matin's is not. I understand that Richards is not also. I think Boby Marks and Gerald Bourget both said if all three were let go, it barely squeaks us below the second apron. Remembe, we have some one year deals already off.

Obviously if we traded someone like Allen, that would help give us a bit of maneuvering room. That could allow much more options in a KD trade, like trading multiple guys on our side.

Suns have supposedly been seeking a center in calls regarding KD, etc.

 

[Mainstreet]

@outcent13

If the Suns could trade Grayson Allen $15,625,000 and Royce O'Neale $9,375,000 and not bring salary back, it might get them there.

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[Yuma]

@outcent13

If the Suns could trade Grayson Allen $15,625,000 and Royce O'Neale $9,375,000 and not bring salary back, it might get them there.

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They could trade for draft picks possibly?

 

[Mainstreet]

They could trade for draft picks possibly?

It makes sense the Suns would be looking for draft picks as compensation rather than bringing back salary because of the second tax apron.

 

[Proximo]

It makes sense the Suns would be looking for draft picks as compensation rather than bringing back salary because of the second tax apron.

Yes it would be wise if they could somehow get late first rounders this year or a 1st round pick for next year.

 

[Hoop Head]

2nd apron is around $208 million and Suns are on the hook for $219m. They need to shed $11 million to get under the 2nd apron.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yes it would be wise if they could somehow get late first rounders this year or a 1st round pick for next year.

I hope someone is helping Brian Gregory pull the strings as GM.

 

[Hoop Head]

I hope someone is helping Brian Gregory pull the strings as GM.

Bartlestein is still here, for better or worse. There's experience around Gregory.

 

[Yuma]

2nd apron is around $208 million and Suns are on the hook for $219m. They need to shed $11 million to get under the 2nd apron.

Micic club option $8,109,150, Cody Martin $8,680,000 2025-26: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed on 6/30/25, Nick Richards $5,000,000, 2025-26: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed on 6/29/25.

I keep posting this, but it keeps coming up in discussions like no one here has ever read this before!

Can a mod pin this at the top of the thread? LOL!

 

[Mainstreet]

Bartlestein is still here, for better or worse. There's experience around Gregory.

Mat Tellem would also appear qualified to help.

 

[Yuma]

Mat Tellem would also appear qualified to help.

I trust Mat Tellum more than Bartlestein. Josh Bartlestein seems like he's great building facilities and doing business deals. I feel he's very solid on that front.

 

[Hoop Head]

I trust Mat Vellum more than Bartlestein. Josh Bartlestein seems like he's great building facilities and doing business deals. I feel he's very solid on that front.

Bartlestein is a closer. I wouldn't write him off.

 

[GatorAZ]

I'd take Randle and trash over the #14 pick and another undersized SG.

I’d take Vassell and 14 over Randle out of fear they’d extend him. I’m more interested in assets than wins.

Vassell isn’t undersized.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’d take Vassell and 14 over Randle out of fear they’d extend him. I’m more interested in assets than wins.

Vassell isn’t undersized.

Same. I wouldn’t be wowed by it but Vassel is young…ish, has good size (I believe he’s 6’6 or 6’7) and it gives us a mid round first to hopefully start building for the future.

Randle and slop probably keeps us at a 30-36 win pace and either needs an extension which we should absolutely not give him, or he just walks after a year when he turns down his player option at 30 to get one last big payday. That would be beyond pointless to me. Does nothing to make us better in present or future.

 

[Hoop Head]

I’d take Vassell and 14 over Randle out of fear they’d extend him. I’m more interested in assets than wins.

Vassell isn’t undersized.

Vassell is 6'5" and not big or strong enough to play SF. He's also not a good enough ball handler or passer to play PG. He's signed for $27m a year for the next 3 years to a position we're already paying $120+ to 3 guys who play there as good or better than he does.