Suns Hire Ott as New Coach

[Superbone]

IMO, Mat Ishbia doesn't want to be the owner who completely blew up a Finals and 64 win team. Trading Devin Booker now would look like that, although it will probably eventually happen.

Whoops. Too late. Booker is the only player remaining. That is a blown up Finals team. One players does not a team make. I know you said "completely" but close enough.

 

[Covert Rain]

I'm not even thinking title. That thought flew the coop back in 2023.

With the Suns draft situation, Devin Booker will likely be gone by the time they compete for something like that again. The Suns would have to really get lucky in the draft, trade or free agency to change the situation.

IMO, Mat Ishbia doesn't want to be the owner who completely blew up a Finals and 64 win team. Trading Devin Booker now would look like that, although it will probably eventually happen.

I am not either in the near future, but we have to build the foundation for one which is likely years away. That likely doesn't include Booker. Knowing that I would prefer to get maximum return for him while we can.

Now if this organization has a different plan to make us a title contender BEFORE Books time here is up? By all means keep him and build any way you can. I just don't see how they can with the assets they have.

 

[Mainstreet]

I am not either in the near future, but we have to build the foundation for one which is likely years away. That likely doesn't include Booker. Knowing that I would prefer to get maximum return for him while we can.

Now if this organization has a different plan to make us a title contender BEFORE Books time here is up? By all means keep him and build any way you can. I just don't see how they can with the assets they have.

The NBA Draft is a crap shoot. I think we have seen the Suns plan to rebuild.

If the Suns eventually trade Booker, they need young talent in return.

 

[BirdGangThing]

book is ish's alamo - book would have to ask to leave - i don't see him doing that in his 20s

but back to ott who can't get the rookies off the bench even with 2 starters out - and even after the dismal display we've seen at center

what's the guy supposed to do?

give fleming some of nhd's minutes - can't come from any where else - dunn isn't getting enough as is and honestly nhd as been yawn city

with williams being the clear #1 it becomes pick your poison with richards and oso coming off the bench - both have their disabilities - i don't want to see both every night - pick one or rotate them from game to game - i don't care - just get maluach in there because that's how we'll eventually solve this problem

couldn't care less about brea right now - nothing against him we got sharp shooters who can play better defense but come on - maluach will only get better and fleming? it would be hard to do much worse than nhd

 

[Superbone]

but back to ott who can't get the rookies off the bench even with 2 starters out - and even after the dismal display we've seen at center

what's the guy supposed to do?

Can't or won't?

 

[BirdGangThing]

Can't or won't?

won't (so far)

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I think those calling for minutes for Flemming are missing the ball. During camp they commented on the fact that they had to get him past imposter syndrome. Convince him he can play at this level. That’s a confidence game. Put him in before he’s ready and he’ll self destruct mentally and may never be recoverable. Bring him along slowly. Let him see what he’s capable of against nba level talent in practice day after day. Let him experience that success. Maybe then some g league so he can gain self confidence that he can play at a high level. Then bring him back for spot minutes and hopefully his confidence blossoms.

 

[Yuma]

I think those calling for minutes for Flemming are missing the ball. During camp they commented on the fact that they had to get him past imposter syndrome. Convince him he can play at this level. That’s a confidence game. Put him in before he’s ready and he’ll self destruct mentally and may never be recoverable. Bring him along slowly. Let him see what he’s capable of against nba level talent in practice day after day. Let him experience that success. Maybe then some g league so he can gain self confidence that he can play at a high level. Then bring him back for spot minutes and hopefully his confidence blossoms.

I kind of agree with one of the podcasts I listen to. The g League don't offer much to guys already on the NBA Level. Perhaps rehab games if coming off injury. What's the point if he goes down to play inferior players and blow it up there, when the player himself would still have doubts when he gets back on the NBA level. It's like me playing a bunch of sixth graders on 5 foot rims and then thinking I can dominate a Men's rec league here in Phoenix.

 

[Mainstreet]

It's like me playing a bunch of sixth graders on 5 foot rims and then thinking I can dominate a Men's rec league here in Phoenix.

I'd take it and like it.

 

[BirdGangThing]

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[Mainstreet]

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And Booker ranks 7th with 4 turnovers per game.

NBA Conference Turnovers Stat Leaders, 2025-26 Regular Season - ESPN

www.espn.com

 

[Hoop Head]

And Booker ranks 7th with 4 turnovers per game.

NBA Conference Turnovers Stat Leaders, 2025-26 Regular Season - ESPN

www.espn.com

He was at like 6+ turnovers for the first 2 games so it's trending in the right direction.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I kind of agree with one of the podcasts I listen to. The g League don't offer much to guys already on the NBA Level. Perhaps rehab games if coming off injury. What's the point if he goes down to play inferior players and blow it up there, when the player himself would still have doubts when he gets back on the NBA level. It's like me playing a bunch of sixth graders on 5 foot rims and then thinking I can dominate a Men's rec league here in Phoenix.

You aren’t getting my point. The reason would be to gain confidence and get some run. They literally said they were having to convince him he belonged. But he isn’t going to get run at the nba level right now. And I’m not talking about sending down now. Or even for a prolonged period. I’m saying build his confidence during practice. Get him some run in the g league that boosts that confidence, then start to work him in. All these calls to dump into games right now have zero plan for a kid who obviously wasn’t ready mentally at the beginning of summer camp.

 

[BirdGangThing]

we have a real head coach yall

i was the biggest doubter here scoffing at those who said give ott a chance - the popular opinion was to hire the other guy who's name already slips my mind but he didn't have any michigan ties lol

what ott is doing - and please forgive the blasphemy - is making miracles - atleast in the fan's eyes - both sides of the ball - i haven't seen the suns play this inspired since we were up 2-0 on milwaukee - it's like that

it would be nice to see the rookies but i think it's even nicer they get to watch all this teamwork beat talent and height - it would be nice to have jalen and dtv but it's even nicer knowing we're a tad deeper than we thought

the depth comes back to coaching imo - these players have always been who they are - especially the og suns who play completely differently under ott - he's the only thing thats changed

seriously yall i think we have a real coach - granted he's young and his habits may change but he has this team playing quality basketball and it only took him 6 games to do it

characteristics - ott don't care how tall they are and ott don't care how tall you are - you better play defense and lock in - help might come it might not but ott don't care and i kinda love it and i think it's why he loves grayson so much

ott doesn't hesitate call timeott and regroup - idk how he does it but whoever's playing at the time comes out focused on defense - when we play defense our offense shines - it's the cause and effect that used to be the other way around

i can't keep up with the substitutions - sometimes ott will counter who the other team is subbing like last night with wemby - other times ott forces the other team to counter his lineup - ott will adjust - we go on a mini run and they tap ott and call a timeott

i think jordan ott got a little pops vibe going on - smart and tactical - getting the best out of his team - not his players but his team - book looks happier than ever - probably because we've gone up by 20+ and actually held the leads

i think we got a coach - i think he values heart and effort

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

we have a real head coach yall

i was the biggest doubter here scoffing at those who said give ott a chance - the popular opinion was to hire the other guy who's name already slips my mind but he didn't have any michigan ties lol

what ott is doing - and please forgive the blasphemy - is making miracles - atleast in the fan's eyes - both sides of the ball - i haven't seen the suns this inspired since we were up 2-0 on milwaukee - it's like that

it would be nice to see the rookies but i think it's even nicer they get to watch all this teamwork beat talent and height - it would be nice to have jalen and dtv but it's even nicer knowing we're a tad deeper than we thought

the depth comes back to coaching imo - these players have always been who they are - especially the og suns who play completely differently under ott - he's the only thing thats changed

seriously yall i think we have a real coach - granted he's young and his habits may change but he has this team playing quality basketball and it only took him 6 games to do it

characteristics - ott don't care how tall they are and ott don't care how tall you are - you better play defense and lock in - help might come it might not but ott don't care and i kinda love it and i think it's why he loves grayson so much

ott doesn't hesitate call timeott and regroup - idk how he does it but whoever's playing at the time comes out focused on defense - when we play defense our offense shines - it's the cause and effect that used to be the other way around

i can't keep up with the substitutions - sometimes ott will counter who the other team is subbing like last night with wemby - other times ott forces the other team to counter his lineup - ott will adjust - we go on a mini run and they tap ott and call a timeott

i think jordan ott got a little pops vibe going on - smart and tactical - getting the best out of his team - not his players but his team - book looks happier than ever - probably because we've gone up by 20+ and actually held the leads

i think we got a coach - i think he values heart and effort

I had the unfortunate task of rooting for the Dallas Wings this summer (only due to being a fan of Bueckers) and I bring this up because it was a clear example of bad coaching holding back the players. Multiple players who were struggling earlier in the season were thriving on their new teams. Of course, sometimes the players hold back the coach, but more often than not I would bet it goes the other direction.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think those calling for minutes for Flemming are missing the ball. During camp they commented on the fact that they had to get him past imposter syndrome. Convince him he can play at this level. That’s a confidence game. Put him in before he’s ready and he’ll self destruct mentally and may never be recoverable. Bring him along slowly. Let him see what he’s capable of against nba level talent in practice day after day. Let him experience that success. Maybe then some g league so he can gain self confidence that he can play at a high level. Then bring him back for spot minutes and hopefully his confidence blossoms.

I think this team has to build an identity with its vets before it will be a healthy environment to introduce the rookies. Without Durant, and with the addition of DB and Green, its an entirely new animal. Everyone's role changes including Book. I expect that the best five players on this team will be Book, Green, Dunn, Brooks, and Williams. But if that doesn't work, they have to figure that out before they can give Fleming or Maluach extended minutes.

I am rather surprised this team is playing as well as it is right now--not because I don't think it has the potential, but because of all the pieces that have to fit together. Really, its a credit to Booker. He is not only the star of this team, he is making it all flow together on offense. He is entering a new level of play.

 

[BirdGangThing]

ott pisses centers off lol joker and wemby were mad as hell

 

[95pro]

I think this team has to build an identity with its vets before it will be a healthy environment to introduce the rookies. Without Durant, and with the addition of DB and Green, its an entirely new animal. Everyone's role changes including Book. I expect that the best five players on this team will be Book, Green, Dunn, Brooks, and Williams. But if that doesn't work, they have to figure that out before they can give Fleming or Maluach extended minutes.

I am rather surprised this team is playing as well as it is right now--not because I don't think it has the potential, but because of all the pieces that have to fit together. Really, its a credit to Booker. He is not only the star of this team, he is making it all flow together on offense. He is entering a new level of play.

He was this guy already prior to Ishbia and KD.

 

[Hoop Head]

He was this guy already prior to Ishbia and KD.

I put it on KD. Ishbia had little to do with his play on the court. I think Book and Ish have bonded some with Booker being a Michigan kid but KD is what stunted his development and ascension. Laying much at Ishbia's feet would mean Sarver would be more a part of Booker's early years.

 

[95pro]

I put it on KD. Ishbia had little to do with his play on the court. I think Book and Ish have bonded some with Booker being a Michigan kid but KD is what stunted his development and ascension. Laying much at Ishbia's feet would mean Sarver would be more a part of Booker's early years.

Ish took over as owner and gutted the team for KD, indirectly taking away what Book had become at that point.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Ish took over as owner and gutted the team for KD, indirectly taking away what Book had become at that point.

Ish made one bad mistake shortly after buying this team and has had to try to adjust, undo it, ever since.

 

[95pro]

Ish made one bad mistake shortly after buying this team and has had to try to adjust, undo it, ever since.

Got us into this ish.

 

[Superbone]

Got us into this ish.

There is ish all around. I guess he just wanted to have the full Phoenix experience. See if he can get us to rise from the ashes of his own doing.

 

[Goldfield]

I think those calling for minutes for Flemming are missing the ball. During camp they commented on the fact that they had to get him past imposter syndrome. Convince him he can play at this level. That’s a confidence game. Put him in before he’s ready and he’ll self destruct mentally and may never be recoverable. Bring him along slowly. Let him see what he’s capable of against nba level talent in practice day after day. Let him experience that success. Maybe then some g league so he can gain self confidence that he can play at a high level. Then bring him back for spot minutes and hopefully his confidence blossoms.

Does Brony James have this Imposter syndrome?

 

[BirdGangThing]

FRUSTRATION

we used to own the trademark - self destruction through dysfunction - that was us but not no more

now it's like we don't know the word - other teams make a run - ott calls time - team refocuses - idk what ott says or what happens in the huddle but our timeotts mean something

we do the frustrating now and we are extremely frustrating - usually starts at the beginning of games with dtv intentionally frustrating a big name player - that player gets more concerned with dtv allowing the rest of our team to jump to a lead

that's the thing - we can beat you on the court and are (so far) immune to the traditional ugly tactics

we can keep it gangster - we can keep it cordial - how you wanna go about it?

and ott loves what dtv is doing - what the whole team is doing - ain't no disappear here dear - we want all the smoke

ott frustrates teams with schemes and subs but he doesn't mind when we bully and thug for short stretches - it's part of the game especially with refs allowing the physicality again - i think the nba wants the suns

sorry for the length im just pumped