Suns 2025-2026 Season Discussion

[Mainstreet]

Jordan Ott talks about what the Suns are building:

“When you walk into the building, you can’t escape it. That’s what you want to build. You want to build a group that’s competitive that if you don’t play hard, you’re the outlier.”

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[SactownSunsFan]

I'm iffy on the Sabonis rumors. On one hand, he could definitely fill that role of a stretch 4 who is also kinda a poor man's Joker in his ability to make plays, rebound and score, but is he gonna buy into the defensive dog mentality that this team has adopted? Does he even have the defensive capabilities to do so? He's prone to picking up a lot of fouls, but playing next to Mark Williams might negate some of that? Green and Richards gets it done financially, according to the ESPN trade machine, but would that be enough to pique the interest on Sacramento's side? They'd probably want Oso, too. And Sabonis is dealing with a partially torn meniscus, which is concerning.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We have 23 million tied up in dead salary.

We have to extend Mark Williams, Gillespie, and Goodwin. If we can do that - our money is GONE.

There will be no free agent signings other than vet minimums. We have no picks.

That basically means - best case - we keep the team we have. Is that team good enough even if the young guys we have develop - nope.

Don't get me wrong, I like this team a lot. But realistically we cannot compete for a title for at least 5 years because we have no way to get the necessary talent.

We’ve heard that there are no moves to make like every season and somehow ishbia (for better or worse) comes up with ways to recreate the team. I think I would stop using the phrase “no way” with him.

Also - and note, I’m not saying this team will become a championship contender - we have NO idea what this team will be in 2-3 years. Mark williams, Jalen green (who hasn’t played yet really) are really young legitimate nba players. We don’t know their ceiiings with good (maybe great?) coaching. Gillespie is obviously a legit nba player and just emerging. We don’t know his ceiling. What if Maluach develops into an absolute stud? Or if Fleming and Kobe developed into legit nba players? And what if we trade brooks, Allen, Royce for picks or other young talent? And the biggest “what if” . . . What if all this happens and we trade booker for who knows what kind of haul? Too many variables to just close the door on what a team, with a wealthy owner who is willing to be creative, wants to win, and take chances, can do.

I’ve always been a realist about sports. Usually I’m looked at as pessimist. In th suns case, given the evidence we’ve been provided that’s been flipped. I’m realistic that it’s not all guaranteed doom and gloom. I recognize that there actually a pretty wide range of variables that could end up swinging to either end of the spectrum.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I want kuminga still.

Royce, Richard’s and Nigel is a great deal for us. Problem is I expect the kings to offer more.

If Kuminga could buy into what Ott created he could be fantastic. But I don’t see it.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You didn't hear - the rumor is it's Williams and Jalen Green from us.

Vomit

 

[JCSunsfan]

Vomit

Nope. Not including Williams.

 

[Superbone]

Nope. Not including Williams.

That would be ridiculous to include him OR Green.

 

[Ronin]

Collin Gillespie: Jalen Green's 'earned the right to start'

Though he has showed the skill of a starting point guard, Suns' Collin Gillespie is happy to let Jalen Green lead when he makes his return.

arizonasports.com

 

[Ronin]

Devin Booker Gets Positive Update Ahead of Lakers vs Suns

The Phoenix Suns could see Devin Booker return in time for Sunday.

www.si.com

 

[angel_ofthe_south]

Allen is more like Danny Ainge than Dan Majerle

That could be, but I don't want to insult Allen by comparing him to one of the biggest idiots in Suns playoff history.

 

[GatorAZ]

I’d do Sabonis if it only cost role player salary. Not sure how low his value is at this point.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Jeff Hornacek.

I don’t think he’s the offensive player Horny was. In his prime, Horny had deceptive handles and slashing ability. I also think Horny was a choir boy on the court and Allen got some of Danny’s devil in him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’d do Sabonis if it only cost role player salary. Not sure how low his value is at this point.

Same. I ain’t giving up Green or Williams. Both of those guys seems like letting pieces for the future.

 

[Hoop Head]

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[Hoop Head]

Good to see Book and Williams bonding.

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[angel_ofthe_south]

Jeff Hornacek.

Now that would be a compliment, since Jeff Hornacek is my favorite player ever; but I don't see that either. Hornacek had considerable point guard skills, allowing him to play either guard spot. Grayson has no notable point guard skills and, as far as I know, never plays point guard. (If he did, perhaps the team would finally cut out the Point Book nonsense.)

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Now that would be a compliment, since Jeff Hornacek is my favorite player ever; but I don't see that either. Hornacek had considerable point guard skills, allowing him to play either guard spot. Grayson has no notable point guard skills and, as far as I know, never plays point guard. (If he did, perhaps the team would finally cut out the Point Book nonsense.)

drops 10+ dimes in a nba game but has no notable point guard skills

 

[AzStevenCal]

Now that would be a compliment, since Jeff Hornacek is my favorite player ever; but I don't see that either. Hornacek had considerable point guard skills, allowing him to play either guard spot. Grayson has no notable point guard skills and, as far as I know, never plays point guard. (If he did, perhaps the team would finally cut out the Point Book nonsense.)

Booker has developed into a plus point guard on offense, it's his inability to defend even average PGs that's been the killer for us. But now, with Williams and Oso, our guards finally have a little help. And with Brooks establishing the defensive mindset for this team, DB's perimeter defense is no longer much of an issue.

The second biggest problem when it comes to Devin playing the point is that he doesn't get to play alongside a Devin-level shooting guard but that looks to be solved with the addition of Green and the development of Collin. We've seen Booker, Green, Brooks, Grayson, Collin, Bouyea, Goodwin and others initiating the offense so any concern over Booker at the 1 spot means little to this group IMO.

 

[JCSunsfan]

That would be ridiculous to include him OR Green.

I don't think we could make the numbers match without including Green. And I am not saying we should. Its just the mechanics of a trade.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I don’t think he’s the offensive player Horny was. In his prime, Horny had deceptive handles and slashing ability. I also think Horny was a choir boy on the court and Allen got some of Danny’s devil in him.

Cotton called Horny the "paper boy" because of his looks. I am not sure how it morphed into choir boy, but Horny had some devil in him too.

 

[Ronin]

Royce O'Neale: The Sharpshooter and Steady Presence for the Suns

Royce O'Neale is one of the Suns' trusted snipers from 3-point range. But he's also a veteran voice everyone appreciates in the locker room.

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[Ronin]

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