OT: NBA Finals: Cavs v. Warriors

What will be the outcome of the NBA Finals?


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I thought it was live but after seeing the replay I think the ref figured Curry had already mishandled the ball so at the point where LeBron slid into him, they were both in essence going after a loose ball. If curry has the ball in his hand it's a foul, but he's already gone behind his back and bobbled the dribble.

If there were any calls I'd complain about in that game involving LeBron I could name 3.

1) the one where he goes up, Iggy touches the ball but doesn't knock it loose, LeBron then "drops" the ball, catches it and goes back up and scores. The way it happened the only way that's legal is if Iggy knocks the ball clear out of his hands, he didn't. So it was either a travel or you could even argue a jump ball.

2) the block by LeBron on Ezeli's dunk attempt. they never showed a replay but live it looked like a foul and Ezeli is a pretty quiet guy and he reacted that it was a foul. But I haven't seen a replay so I don't know for sure.

3) 4th quarter drive LeBron lowers shoulder pushes Iggy back several feet and lays it in. It was literally like watching a football player push a blocking sled. I think the ref figured Iggy wasn't set, but you don't have to be set, if you're in front of the defender and you're both moving the same direction(him forward to the rim Iggy backward to the rim) you have the right to the ground you occupy.

But the Warriors got away with some plays too. Blatant walk by curry driving baseline cutoff by Mozgov. The hard screen by Green. There were a couple of balls I thought clearly went out off us they gave to us.

Lee had a really blatant hold on Curry's last three as well on Shumpert when they were setting the triple screen across the court.

but overall, I don't think there was much to complain about on either side in Game 3. Can't wait to see what happens tonight. I think Curry goes off and ties up the series.
 

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"Hey, this fire isn't burning hot enough; let's throw some kerosene on it."

As if Lebron needs ANYMORE motivation to kick this team's ass.

Well done, Lee and Green :doi:
 

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Not smart of Draymond Green to start flapping the gums when he has been out played by Thompson.

What part of this is Draymond Green did you not understand?

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Good player but he talks way too much for his own good.
 

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"Hey, this fire isn't burning hot enough; let's throw some kerosene on it."

As if Lebron needs ANYMORE motivation to kick this team's ass.

Well done, Lee and Green :doi:

as Jim Croce would say "you don't pull on Superman's cape."

That said I imagine that idiot woman fan after game 2 gave LeBron all the motivation he needed.
 

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At least the league finally fixed David Stern's 2-3-2 anti-home court advantage Finals format a couple years ago.
This series would have a different tone if the next TWO games were in Cleveland.
 

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What part of this is Draymond Green did you not understand?



:D



Good player but he talks way too much for his own good.


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Joey Crawford is one the officials for tonight's game. Any worries about how the game will be called?


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At least the league finally fixed David Stern's 2-3-2 anti-home court advantage Finals format a couple years ago.
This series would have a different tone if the next TWO games were in Cleveland.

did that change already? I thought it was still 2-3-2.

ah... it is 2-2-1-1-1. interesting. I actually think if Cleveland wins tonight, that plays in their favor. It's almost impossible to win all three home games, but if they get tonight and go up 3-1, they won't have all the pressure in the world on them to win three straight, can drop a game in GS and then gear up for the mother of all cleveland wins... or kick in the balls in Game 6.
 
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as Jim Croce would say "you don't pull on Superman's cape."

That said I imagine that idiot woman fan after game 2 gave LeBron all the motivation he needed.

Look, I am ready to put LBJ up there with Jordan. Even if they don't win the title this year, it's obvious, to me, that he will deliver a trophy to Cleveland. But, I don't think these comments impact him at all. Larry Bird would get pissed as hell over something like that and would go for the throat. But, Lebron's personality, to me, is he is just more unflappable and plays like he plays regardless of outside chatter.
 

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wow... Kerr starts off super small tonight.

oh my lord what a pass by LeBron.
 

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I'll get my whines out of the way early. First play of the game LeBron drives takes 4 steps no call.

Not long later he drives, leaves his feet, foot touches back down and then he passes.

What a pass to Mozgov though, he is so good he doesn't need the extra steps refs.
 

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even though they're down early, this tempo favors the Warriors so far.
 

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I'll get my whines out of the way early. First play of the game LeBron drives takes 4 steps no call.

Not long later he drives, leaves his feet, foot touches back down and then he passes.

What a pass to Mozgov though, he is so good he doesn't need the extra steps refs.

will you please catalog the awful calls against the Cavs as well... like the three point play that was a charge and the BS foul Lee just got also? or LeBron just getting smacked in the face and fouled again on the drive.

Thanks.
 
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will you please catalog the awful calls against the Cavs as well... like the three point play that was a charge and the BS foul Lee just got also? or LeBron just getting smacked in the face and fouled again on the drive.

Thanks.

Those all happened AFTER I posted.

These refs are hysterically bad. lee walked on his first shot no call, on his 2nd he was untouched they call a foul. Then Curry gets a clean steal on LeBron they call a foul, then Curry gets away with a foul that would have been an and 1.

When did LeBron go Ginobili or Harden, he has to be tired he's flopped 3 times already on offense, twice against Curry. You're not going to convince the refs that Steph Curry can knock LeBron James down.

The quarter ended with lee setting a wicked screen on Delly who then came up and barked at him at the end of the quarter. Getting chippy
 

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So far smaller lineup looks like a stroke of genius, one many of us were asking for 2 games ago.

And I think Cleveland is exhausted, Delly has been short on all of his jumpers and even LeBron seems winded already.

The more I watch him the more I love Tristan Thompson. He was the classic great talent that took awhile to figure out what he wasn't and do what he does well.
 

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Maybe that will finally convince the NBA to move the damn camera people back further off the court.
 

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Put it this way: had Cleveland somehow took Game 1, they'd be the first NBA team to ever choke away a 3-0 series lead.
 

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Put it this way: had Cleveland somehow took Game 1, they'd be the first NBA team to ever choke away a 3-0 series lead.

Big difference between choking and exhaustion IMO.
 

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Big difference between choking and exhaustion IMO.


This is a lack of talent and guys like Dellevadova turning back into a pumpkin. This was never going to be sustainable for Cleveland
 

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From hero to goat, Dellavedova having a terrible game. JR Smith also. Will be interesting to see if Cleveland can steal a game on the road.
 

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This is a lack of talent and guys like Dellevadova turning back into a pumpkin. This was never going to be sustainable for Cleveland

Right but I just don't think it's choking. I think they're exhausted as pretty much everyone expected they would be.

Iggy and Livingston have been the difference tonight for the Warriors. Kept saying play Shaun more, when he's in you can take some of ballhandling off Curry so he can look to score more, and Shaun is a very solid defender.
 

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Right but I just don't think it's choking. I think they're exhausted as pretty much everyone expected they would be.

Iggy and Livingston have been the difference tonight for the Warriors. Kept saying play Shaun more, when he's in you can take some of ballhandling off Curry so he can look to score more, and Shaun is a very solid defender.

The Cavs are not choking in the least. In this game, GS was clearly just a lot better than the Cavs were. Well, after the first three minutes or so.

Oh, and Igoudala just had a great game, and he's been the best and most consistent Warriors player the whole series.
 

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