OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Shane]

You are correct. Jumps back to 17.5% next year. What drunk made this contract?

Jonah Williams not being on the team and eating 7 million next year...gross

Well considering that the cap will likely go up another 20 million your numbers are still likely off

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Maybe Bidwill should have put in a 'no drinking clause' into Keim's contract...

Or he could have simply fired him after getting an extreme DUI.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Well considering that the cap will likely go up another 20 million your numbers are still likely off

I am just quoting the site as it is right now

 

[kerouac9]

Or he could have simply fired him after getting an extreme DUI.

His second extreme DUI, if memory serves

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

His second extreme DUI, if memory serves

Keim bought me a beer at Lions Den in Pinetop. Nice guy!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

His second extreme DUI, if memory serves

Correct. He handed cause for his termination right to the owner, but I guess because they were friends (err...drinking buddies) it just wasn't taken as seriously as it should have been.

 

[Mark22]

I'd be surprised considering Kyler was injured 3 weeks earlier in the season than Mahomes when he blew his ACL. He didn't come back till week 8 the following season. But then again it is Kyler. lol

 

[Stout]

The offense is just different since Brissett came in. The entire scheme changed. They stopped running the ball as much on 1st and 2nd down, passing instead.

There can definitely be a debate on why the change happened. (like maybe the coaching staff didn't have enough faith in Kyler to run the offense that Brissett is running...) It isn't as though they are running the same offense and Brissett just outplayed him.

Alternatively, Kyler just couldn't operate the offense as designed properly, and they had to mitigate his negatives. No one can know for sure beyond what we have seen in comparison.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Alternatively, Kyler just couldn't operate the offense as designed properly, and they had to mitigate his negatives. No one can know for sure beyond what we have seen in comparison.

Sure. That can be a variable too.

I hope we can agree that the offense is complete different with the different QBs, and we don't know the exact reasons why.

 

[DaHilg]

Well one can definitely say that throwing it more does not automatically mean more or the same yardage as another QB in a similar statistical game.

Example: In 2019, against Carolina, KM threw the ball 43 times for only 173 yards...

Pulling out an outlier stat from 6 years ago.. how pathetic is this? We could do that with any stat in nfl history

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

What exactly have they built in 3 years? Does anyone see a coherent vision? Monti deserves as much of the blame as Gannon. He's taken a bad roster and transformed it into a somehow worse roster. How could anyone justify letting Monti choose our next QB?

They’ve built a bad defense and who knows on offense beyond a bad offensive line.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Outside of TE, I am not sure what position group this staff has developed.

We haven’t seen any bad longsnaps.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That's where I was looking as well. the 19% cap hit was 2024. This year it is 15.5.

. . . yay?

 

[Stout]

Could it be a sign we'll trade Kyler to Picksburgh?

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[Brian in Mesa]

Pulling out an outlier stat from 6 years ago.. how pathetic is this? We could do that with any stat in nfl history

And two games THIS season. Fact is Kyler can throw it 40 plus times for a lot fewer yards than other QBs. Even a perennial backup.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

. . . yay?

It isn't a yay or a nay really. Sanders mentioned that it is hard for a team to win paying that much to your QB, and I countered that it seems to be right about steady for the past few years at least. That's it.

 

[Stout]

And two games THIS season. Fact is Kyler can throw it 40 plus times for a lot fewer yards than other QBs. Even a perennial backup.

Shh...don't bring relevant facts to the discussion.

 

[DaHilg]

And two games THIS season. Fact is Kyler can throw it 40 plus times for a lot fewer yards than other QBs. Even a perennial backup.

Why are you lying and why is your KDS crew supporting it? THIS season he only threw the ball 25 times for 220 yards vs Carolina. Even in your post you referenced the year 2019? Makes one even question the validity of if it even happened then (even if it did.. it was … 2019 lol)

You should be embarrassed, time to go back to your room Brian. No soup for you!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Why are you lying and why is your KDS crew supporting it? THIS season he only threw the ball 25 times for 220 yards vs Carolina. Even in your post you referenced the year 2019? Makes one even question the validity of if it even happened then (even if it did.. it was … 2019 lol)

You should be embarrassed, time to go back to your room Brian. No soup for you!

Kyler was our QB in 2019. Are you dense? You said ANY decent QB who throws it at least 43 times is going to get a lot of yardage. I was showing that throwing it 43 times does not necessarily equal a lot of yardage - depending on the QB.

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[DaHilg]

Kyler was our QB in 2019. Are you dense? You said ANY decent QB who throws it at least 43 times is going to get a lot of yardage. I was showing that throwing it 43 times does not necessarily equal a lot of yardage - depending on the QB.

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I’m sorry but incompetence here is unmatched, only to respond to the left field after getting called out for being incorrect

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I’m sorry but incompetence here is unmatched, only to respond to the left field after getting called out for being incorrect

Sorry you have difficulty reading facts, stats, and pretty much anything in written form. You should get that looked into by a professional.

 

[DaHilg]

Sorry you have difficulty reading facts, stats, and pretty much anything in written form. You should get that looked into by a professional.

Says the guy who I just corrected on 2 separate posts.

 

[Chopper0080]

I would agree. The issue is that our division rivals got much better

Any GM/HC that is hired really needs to understand the aggressiveness of this division and be ready to operate in the same manner. The lack of urgency from Monti and Gannon was a huge red flag year 1.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Says the guy who I just corrected on 2 separate posts.

You corrected nothing.

 

[DaHilg]

You corrected nothing.

Mental shorty