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I think you are confusing "JB is a better QB than Kyler" with "JB is playing much, much better than Kyler".

They are not the same thing and JB should start because he is clearly playing better and Kyler has been very bad.
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let's say you bet $5,000 on arizona beating dallas - not online but with somebody known to take fingers - and let's say you don't have the 5 racks to pay if arizona loses

would you want murray or brissett to start?

and please use your pinky to type your answer -think about how much you enjoy having a pinky - it's not the size of the finger in bet...
 

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let's say you bet $5,000 on arizona beating dallas - not online but with somebody known to take fingers - and let's say you don't have the 5 racks to pay if arizona loses

would you want murray or brissett to start?

and please use your pinky to type your answer -think about how much you enjoy having a pinky - it's not the size of the finger in bet...

I'd need to know how healthy Kyler's foot is. If near or at 100%, I go Kyler. If not, then I go JB. Kyler has never lost in that stadium, seems to play his best ball there and has shown to be able to win games as a starter for the Cardinals.
 

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Fortunately people weren't desperately hoping in year 7 that George Washington could finally lead his "team" to consistent victories. He started having success in his second year after a tough rookie season.

Had George Washington failed for 7 straight years then we would have remained a British colony for many more decades.
Egads man!!... then we might actually be stuck liking beans on toast!!
 

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I'd need to know how healthy Kyler's foot is. If near or at 100%, I go Kyler. If not, then I go JB. Kyler has never lost in that stadium, seems to play his best ball there and has shown to be able to win games as a starter for the Cardinals.
ya gotta go kyler either way...because kyler at least has JB as a backup...whereas JB has some dude named Markus Radzinbecker or whatever as backup.
 

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1. Okay.
2. People are different.
3. I believe it was George Washington who said "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". Wise words that later we'll reflect back upon. :)

RE: #3... How many times are you going to spin the odometer back to zero when using this quote? Dudes got 972 miles on him already. Im not willing to continually restart with this guy.
 

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RE: #3... How many times are you going to spin the odometer back to zero when using this quote? Dudes got 972 miles on him already. Im not willing to continually restart with this guy.
At this point I’m viewing it as kind of a bit. Like Charlie Brown, Lucy, and the football.
 

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It would be really funny if after leaving the Cardinals, Kyler finally decides to do offseason work with a QB coach that isnt his dad and he massively improves.
 

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RE: #3... How many times are you going to spin the odometer back to zero when using this quote? Dudes got 972 miles on him already. Im not willing to continually restart with this guy.

No that's fair schutd.

I'm hoping for a better performance from Murray with Hernandez playing RG, less of a run first offense with JC out, and a more effective rushing attack (in terms of YPC) which now features Bam Knight.

I don't think it was super fair to saddle Murray with Adams starting at RG, and while BBQ Brissett has been remarkable at converting 3rd downs and keeping the offense on the field, I think we're passing more as a percentage of plays in the last two vs. the first five.

Also, I think it was good for Murray to watch from the sidelines some.

It's not much, but it might be enough, we'll see.
 

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No that's fair schutd.

I'm hoping for a better performance from Murray with Hernandez playing RG, less of a run first offense with JC out, and a more effective rushing attack (in terms of YPC) which now features Bam Knight.

I don't think it was super fair to saddle Murray with Adams starting at RG, and while BBQ Brissett has been remarkable at converting 3rd downs and keeping the offense on the field, I think we're passing more as a percentage of plays in the last two vs. the first five.

Also, I think it was good for Murray to watch from the sidelines some.

It's not much, but it might be enough, we'll see.
Gawd, I hope so.
 

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What are you talking about now?
the complete radio silence - when was the last time you saw kyler on camera

if kyler feels like he can play on sunday but brissett is getting all the reps they might not want kyler infront of the camera answering questions
 

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No that's fair schutd.

I'm hoping for a better performance from Murray with Hernandez playing RG, less of a run first offense with JC out, and a more effective rushing attack (in terms of YPC) which now features Bam Knight.

I don't think it was super fair to saddle Murray with Adams starting at RG, and while BBQ Brissett has been remarkable at converting 3rd downs and keeping the offense on the field, I think we're passing more as a percentage of plays in the last two vs. the first five.

Also, I think it was good for Murray to watch from the sidelines some.

It's not much, but it might be enough, we'll see.

This suggests that he's just not been trying hard. That a spell on the sidelines is going to shake something loose and make him realise he has to turn the dial from 50 to 100.

The reality is that the issues are ingrained. There are obvious vision problems. He's not going to suddenly stay in the pocket to complete a pass with a rusher heading towards him. He's not going to become more accurate over 15 yards.

The book is written.

Also, the Adams things is massively over blown. Murray has a 16% pressure rate through his 5 games. One of the lowest in the league.
 

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This suggests that he's just not been trying hard. That a spell on the sidelines is going to shake something loose and make him realise he has to turn the dial from 50 to 100.

The reality is that the issues are ingrained. There are obvious vision problems. He's not going to suddenly stay in the pocket to complete a pass with a rusher heading towards him. He's not going to become more accurate over 15 yards.

The book is written.

Also, the Adams things is massively over blown. Murray has a 16% pressure rate through his 5 games. One of the lowest in the league.
So obnoxious
 

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Can we admit now that it looks like Kyler is shadow benched?

He practiced before the Colts game. Practiced every day before Green Bay. Practiced every day this week. And he's still throwing to backups.

This is not normal.
 

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Can we admit now that it looks like Kyler is shadow benched?

He practiced before the Colts game. Practiced every day before Green Bay. Practiced every day this week. And he's still throwing to backups.

This is not normal.
Nah he'd be throwing a fit if that was the case. He was practicing with the starters M-W, then Thursday/Friday practicing with the backups. That makes me think setback. Foot injuries aren't easy to come back from. Look how long Purdy has been out.

It would be one thing if it was pain tolerance, but this type of injury really messes up accuracy.
 
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