OT: Garappolo 5y/137.5M

[Dan H]

Sets the market for Cousins?

 

[GatorAZ]

They could realistically give him 45+ mil the first year of his deal and the rest of the contract could be 4/90.

 

[az jam]

Wow, the price for a qb has certainly gone up.

 

[DVontel]

Cousins is going to get 30mill.


Absolutely not.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Cousins price just went up to $30M per year.

 

[Arz101]

So Cousins is not worth the same money? Before you write Jimmy G is better than Cousins, Rodgers and Brady are making less than Jimmy G and Jimmy G has done squat in comparison to any of them.

The message is you pay top dollar without hesitation to get a QB like Jimmy G or Cousins. Do it Cards

 

[splitsecond]

This is an enormously risky move by the 49ers and frankly, I can't wait to watch it blow up in their faces. They are clearly trying to force teams to overpay QBs in hopes that they can "catch up" to the rest of the NFC at an expedited rate. No one outside of maybe Daniel Snyder would have ever offered this sort of money for Jimmy G.

The York family continues to be completely inept. If any gameplanning has ever been done for Jimmy G it has been minimal at MOST. Now teams will have plenty of tape from last year as well as tape on Shanahan's offensive scheme and can attack him properly this year.

They are going to regret this and its going to be amazing.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

MJ just said SF has over 100 mil in cap space. 27 just came off the top with signing JG. That leaves a ton to fill out with FAs scrambling to sign there. Look out for the 9ers next season.

 

[Arz101]

This is an enormously risky move by the 49ers and frankly, I can't wait to watch it blow up in their faces. They are clearly trying to force teams to overpay QBs in hopes that they can "catch up" to the rest of the NFC at an expedited rate. No one outside of maybe Daniel Snyder would have ever offered this sort of money for Jimmy G.

The York family continues to be completely inept. If any gameplanning has ever been done for Jimmy G it has been minimal at MOST. Now teams will have plenty of tape from last year as well as tape on Shanahan's offensive scheme and can attack him properly this year.

They are going to regret this and its going to be amazing.

They may come to regret it. Do they have a choice here though?

 

[splitsecond]

They may come to regret it. Do they have a choice here though?

They didn't have to pay him this insane contract rate, $100-110 mil even seems high but would have gotten the job done.

 

[Vacard]

This what’s seperates good teams from perennial losers like the Cards, they are willing to go out and spin mega bucks on a qb who never played 6 games straight let alone played a full season and we are sitting up in here bitching that Cousins isn’t worth the money while he played for an inferior and putrid all around team.

We sitting up in here talking that Baker “air raid” Mayfield or Lamar “Tyrod” Jackson are our answers to the qb position while good teams who have a history of winning go out and acquire their qb. Cousins is the answer to this team. He will make us competitive to the Niners, hawks, and Rams who now got their collective heads together.

I’ll take Foles too, y’all thinking that these draft picks gonna pan out while we already know what we got in Cousins/Foles/Tyrod. This is why the Niners have Super Bowl championships and while the Cards are rebuilding.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

This what’s seperates good teams from perennial losers like the Cards.

2007 NFL NFC West 2nd 8 8 0

2008 NFL NFC West 1st 9 7 0 Won Wild Card Playoffs (Falcons) 30–24
Won Divisional Playoffs (at Panthers) 33–13
Won NFC Championship (Eagles) 32–25
Lost Super Bowl XLIII (vs. Steelers) 23–27 Kurt Warner (WP MOY)

2009 NFL NFC West 1st 10 6 0 Won Wild Card Playoffs (Packers) 51–45 (OT)
Lost Divisional Playoffs (at Saints) 14–45

2010 NFL NFC West 4th 5 11 0

2011 NFL NFC West 2nd 8 8 0

2012 NFL NFC West 4th 5 11 0

2013 NFL NFC West 3rd 10 6 0

2014 NFL NFC West 2nd 11 5 0 Lost Wild Card Playoffs (at Panthers) 16–27 Bruce Arians (COY)

2015 NFL NFC West 1st 13 3 0 Won Divisional Playoffs (Packers) 26–20 (OT)
Lost NFC Championship (at Panthers) 15–49

2016 NFL NFC West 2nd 7 8 1 Larry Fitzgerald (WP MOY)

2017 NFL NFC West 3rd 8 8 0

Sounds like hyperbole to me, unless by losers you mean, didn't win the Superbowl, and in that case, there are 31 other teams a year that are perennial losers, that are separated from 1 team, and this year the QB that won the Superbowl didn't make that much, so not really sure what you are talking about.


Tom Brady's Cap Number:
https://overthecap.com/player/tom-brady/1250/

Case Keenam's Cap Number:
https://overthecap.com/player/case-keenum/1651

Nick Foles Cap Number:
https://overthecap.com/player/nick-foles/773/


How many playoff games has Kirk Counsins won, since he is the obvious and only savior of this team ? Just asking.

When was the last Superbowl win for the Niners ? How much did the last Niner's QB make when they were a playoff team ? What has their collective record been since then ?

Good argument, not saying you are wrong, you just may want to keep your examples more relevant.

 

[Arz101]

They didn't have to pay him this insane contract rate, $100-110 mil even seems high but would have gotten the job done.

You want 9ers to give jimmy G the Washington treatment and hang in their pseudo harmonious state with their franchise QB? In addition, this was a master stroke from 49ers right? Now Rodgers, Cousins, Wilson all need to be paid accordingly hurting their team's cap space.

 

[Solar7]

This what’s seperates good teams from perennial losers like the Cards, they are willing to go out and spin mega bucks on a qb who never played 6 games straight let alone played a full season and we are sitting up in here bitching that Cousins isn’t worth the money while he played for an inferior and putrid all around team.

We sitting up in here talking that Baker “air raid” Mayfield or Lamar “Tyrod” Jackson are our answers to the qb position while good teams who have a history of winning go out and acquire their qb. Cousins is the answer to this team. He will make us competitive to the Niners, hawks, and Rams who now got their collective heads together.

I’ll take Foles too, y’all thinking that these draft picks gonna pan out while we already know what we got in Cousins/Foles/Tyrod. This is why the Niners have Super Bowl championships and while the Cards are rebuilding.

Man, I'm as much of a Cousins fan as there is, and even I think this is panicking too much.

This is a damn steep deal, but the 49ers had put themselves in good position cap wise to go out and acquire/pay a QB this offseason, which always seemed to be Lynch's plan. The team that selects the right QB of the future in this draft will be in amazing shape going forward compared to some of these guys who are big spenders at the position, but I have to admit I'm scared of us thinking we can find the right guy this year.

 

[Cardsfanstl]

This is insane. What has Grappolo done to warrant to become the highest paid player in the NFL? Answer is nothing. San Fran is nuts to pay this kind of money to an unproven player.

MY 2 cents for what it is worth.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

This is insane. What has Grappolo done to warrant to become the highest paid player in the NFL? Answer is nothing. San Fran is nuts to pay this kind of money to an unproven player.

MY 2 cents for what it is worth.

Well he clearly has a great agent, and SF folded under the pressure. Rookie move by Lynch to give out that much money to a QB with 7 starts under his belt...that's just insane.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Man, I'm as much of a Cousins fan as there is, and even I think this is panicking too much.

This is a damn steep deal, but the 49ers had put themselves in good position cap wise to go out and acquire/pay a QB this offseason, which always seemed to be Lynch's plan. The team that selects the right QB of the future in this draft will be in amazing shape going forward compared to some of these guys who are big spenders at the position, but I have to admit I'm scared of us thinking we can find the right guy this year.

Right guy or most expensive, there is a difference.

Next thing the Niners will need to do is build a team around their new QB, and that is where the rubber will meet said road for them. We will see. Not ready to "crown their ass" just yet.

 

[Shane]

They didn't have to pay him this insane contract rate, $100-110 mil even seems high but would have gotten the job done.

You don’t think if 110 mill woulda got the job done they would have done it?? They added another almost 40 million outa the kindness of their hearts???

Pretty ludicrous if that’s your train of thought hahahaha....

 

[Solar7]

Right guy or most expensive, there is a difference.

Next thing the Niners will need to do is build a team around their new QB, and that is where the rubber will meet said road for them. We will see. Not ready to "crown their ass" just yet.

Sorry, I meant "right guy" in the draft, where like it or not, we're at a disadvantage by being at #15.

 

[Southpaw]

Cost of living index probably had something to do with salary structure.

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Sorry, I meant "right guy" in the draft, where like it or not, we're at a disadvantage by being at #15."

Josh Allen territory. Deal with it.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Well he clearly has a great agent, and SF folded under the pressure. Rookie move by Lynch to give out that much money to a QB with 7 starts under his belt...that's just insane.

Somewhere Jamarcus Russell is rolling off his couch to see if he can still throw a football.

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[Chopper0080]

I don't believe Cousins will get more than Jimmy GQ. The question is can the 49ers acquire enough talent to support him. They just took a big gamble. It is a calculated one, but still a gamble. If he can stay healthy and they can hit on some draft picks, it could turn around the franchise.

 

[Chopper0080]

This is insane. What has Grappolo done to warrant to become the highest paid player in the NFL? Answer is nothing. San Fran is nuts to pay this kind of money to an unproven player.

MY 2 cents for what it is worth.

You (royal you)can sit on a high horse, say the money is too much, and lose, or you can pay what it costs to get a QB and compete.

That is the current state of the NFL.

 

[Vacard]

2007 NFL NFC West 2nd 8 8 0

2008 NFL NFC West 1st 9 7 0 Won Wild Card Playoffs (Falcons) 30–24
Won Divisional Playoffs (at Panthers) 33–13
Won NFC Championship (Eagles) 32–25
Lost Super Bowl XLIII (vs. Steelers) 23–27 Kurt Warner (WP MOY)

2009 NFL NFC West 1st 10 6 0 Won Wild Card Playoffs (Packers) 51–45 (OT)
Lost Divisional Playoffs (at Saints) 14–45

2010 NFL NFC West 4th 5 11 0

2011 NFL NFC West 2nd 8 8 0

2012 NFL NFC West 4th 5 11 0

2013 NFL NFC West 3rd 10 6 0

2014 NFL NFC West 2nd 11 5 0 Lost Wild Card Playoffs (at Panthers) 16–27 Bruce Arians (COY)

2015 NFL NFC West 1st 13 3 0 Won Divisional Playoffs (Packers) 26–20 (OT)
Lost NFC Championship (at Panthers) 15–49

2016 NFL NFC West 2nd 7 8 1 Larry Fitzgerald (WP MOY)

2017 NFL NFC West 3rd 8 8 0

Sounds like hyperbole to me, unless by losers you mean, didn't win the Superbowl, and in that case, there are 31 other teams a year that are perennial losers, that are separated from 1 team, and this year the QB that won the Superbowl didn't make that much, so not really sure what you are talking about.


Tom Brady's Cap Number:
https://overthecap.com/player/tom-brady/1250/

Case Keenam's Cap Number:
https://overthecap.com/player/case-keenum/1651

Nick Foles Cap Number:
https://overthecap.com/player/nick-foles/773/


How many playoff games has Kirk Counsins won, since he is the obvious and only savior of this team ? Just asking.

When was the last Superbowl win for the Niners ? How much did the last Niner's QB make when they were a playoff team ? What has their collective record been since then ?

Good argument, not saying you are wrong, you just may want to keep your examples more relevant.

Niners are still one of the most prestigious franchises in the NFL, no matter what they did in recent memory. The Cardinals might not necessarily still be a laughing stock like they used be *cough cough Mcginness era* but thanks to our bungling GM, we are still miles away from being a franchise like the Niners . All because we didn’t give up the necessary amo to get Watson/Mahommes/Lynch when we had the chance.

The Niners today showed what franchises who want to win do. Gamble. Keim gambles on the wrong thing like small school prospects. This draft is not the draft to get a franchise qb. The Bidwill’s history of stinginess is rubbing off on this forum because drafting Mayfield or Jackson is the cheaper option instead of going after a stud qb like Cousins who could ELEVATE his game if he comes here.

A lot of people don’t understand that this teams cornerstones are in their prime right now. chandler Jones, PP21, healthy DJ and OT DJ aren’t “young players. Cousins here will give us a chance to win now. Not Mayfield or especially Jackson who could take 4 years to develop like Tyrod did. Get Cousins and keep trading down to stock up draft capital to fill our holes.

 

[Snakester]

The 49ers got a good quarterback that they can compete with. They have set the bar for money to an average QB. Good for them. Both Foles and Cousins are better to me but now become too expensive to sign. Let other teams get them. We need to stay the course and draft our guy. There are five quarterbacks in this draft that are at least as good as Graphole and we will get one of them and for cheap. While these other teams are in cap hell we will be able to build our team to compete for the next decade.